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Dr. ATKINSON—What are the hours of duty ?

WITNESS-Well, we go on at 5.45, and the short division earlier the short division

goes on-

Q-What are the hours of duty of the ordinary turnkey?

A-From 6 to 6, or the short division from 6.30 to 5. They have made a change; they are not what they used to be. It used to be from 6 to 6.

Q--Have the hours of duty been increased lately?

I

go on night duty at 5.45

A-They have in a sense; night duty is the worst. and I am on all night. That is more than before I came here--on from evening to 5.30 the next morning, and there is not a chance to rest-5.45 to 5.30.

year?

Q-Twelve hours except a quarter of an hour?

A-Yes.

Q-When do you go on duty again?

A-Same evening again.

Q-Twelve hours practically. Is that an increase as compared with the previous

A-Much more severe, because before the head turnkey had an assistant.

Q-The hours of duty have practically been increased latterly?

A-Yes, they get more time in the day duty; they get more time for their meals than formerly.

Q-The turnkeys who act as wardmasters at the Gaol have the same hours, I suppose? A-Well, no, I think they are different.

Q-Do you know what the difference is?

A-No, we have nothing to do with them.

Q-Have cross-irons as a form of punishment been used within the last year or two?

A-No, they have not been used so much lately.

Q-More floggings and less cross-irons ?

A-Yes.

Q-Have you ever heard of a death resulting from flogging at the Gaol ?

A-Only this last one.

Q-You have never heard of any other?

A-No.

Q--Nor after a prisoner has left the hospital

A-Not in my time.

The Chairman-Do you want to tell us anything more?

WITNESS-That is all I know.

Q-About flogging?

A--That is all I know about flogging.

Q-Have you visited the prisoners in the hospital that have been flogged?

A-Yes, I have visited the hospital.

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