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Q-Have they become insensible?
A-No; I stop them before-on the point.
Q-What do you mean?
A-Directly a man turns pale I stop the flogging; they never become insensible.
Q-A man has never become insensible during a flogging?
A--No.
Q-Not even after receiving thirty-six strokes ?
A--No, I stop him.
Q--Do you think that the attendance is all that is required at the Gaol?
A-Yes.
Q-In regard to nurses, do you think the patients would be better looked after if they had trained wardmasters there?
A-Oh yes.
Q-In a severe case do you ever visit the Gaol at night?
A-This one I visited incidentally, because I was called once or twice to see another prisoner.
Q--The fatal case?
A-Yes. On the 29th when I ordered lemonade I was called to see a man who was very ill. I saw a good many cases.
Q-Do you think the Chinese muscular development is sufficient about the gluteal regions to admit of their being flogged, say with thirty-six strokes?
A-No, not so heavy.
Q-What would be the maximum number a Chinaman would be able to bear?
A-I think that the number of strokes should be according to the constitution of the man.
I believe that, generally speaking, it ought not to exceed 16 strokes,
THE CHAIRMAN-What would you limit the number of strokes to in a severe case ?
WITNESS-Sixteen. It does not depend so much on the number of strokes as on the way the rattan is laid on. Sometimes more harm is done with six strokes than
in another case with twenty.
Dr. ATKINSON-Have you ever stopped a man for that reason-because you thought be had been flogged too severely?
WITNESS-Yes.
THE CHAIRMAN-Are these medical certificates given by yourself filed in the Gaol Office?
WITNESS--Yes.
Q-Are regular floggers employed?
A-Yes.
Q-How many?
A-Two---Europeans.
Q-What class of wardmasters do you have in the Gaol hospital?
A-They are taken from turnkeys---assistant warders.