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Q.-Did the Committee sit in private? ·

A.--During the Sunday Meetings?

Q.-Yes.

A.--No, I don't think they sat in private.

Q.-Did anyone outside the Pó Léung Kuk Committee have any right to appear at those meetings?

A.-The Tung Wa Hospital Committee held their meetings every Sunday and we all sat together.

Q.-Did the members of the Tung Wa Hospital take an active part in the manage- ment of the Pó Léung Kuk?

A.--No, there were different tables about the room and a few members sat here and there. We had a Committee round one table discussing our business.

Q.-Did you keep a record of your transactions?

A. Yes.

Q.-A complete record?

A. Yes, I think so.

Q-Was any publicity ever given to the records of the Society?

A.-No.

Q.-Never?

A.--No.

Q.-Minutes were kept?

A.--Yes.

Q. In a minute book?

A. Yes.

-Were the proceedings of the Society equivalent to a system of espionage over the liberties of the Chinese subjects in Hongkong?

The CHAIRMAN.-Do you understand the question?

Witness.-There is a word I do not understand.

Honourable T. H. WHITEHEAD.-You don't understand the word "espionage?

A.-No.

Honourable Ho KAI.-Say prejudicial interference.

The CHAIRMAN. Do you understand the word "spy"? I think that is about the meaning.

Honourable T. H. WHITEHEAD.-Were the proceedings of the Pó Léung Kuk, when you were Deputy Chairman, equivalent to a system of spying over the liberties of the Chinese subjects in Hongkong?

A.-Not at all ; never.

Q. Are not their proceedings regarded so in any way?

A.-No.

Q.--Might the powers of the Society be put to any improper purposes through their detectives?

A.-They might.

Q. Can you explain how?

A. -I think the detective can, if he likes, abuse his power.

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