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Mr. Bird.--The difference gives the balance?
The Chairman.-Have you inade any claim upon those people who do not appear to have paid?
A.-That is not my business.
Q.--Do you know whether it has been done?
A.-No, you mean people shown to be in arrear on the 31st December, 1892? They are continually paying and I have very little doubt in my own mind that Alves has kept the Treasury Rent Roll correct.
Q.-You think that it is correct, but that he has not paid over all the amounts therein mentioned?
A. Yes, that is it.
Q-According to the book of 1891 how much ought to have been paid over? Has it been made up?
A.-I don't think any summary has been put into it.
Q.-You have made an examination?
A. Yes, here it is.
Q. Whose writing is it in?
A.-Mr. Remedios..
Q.-Is it made up since Alves went?
A. Yes. I see there is a summary of the totals.
Q.-What I want you to give is the total amount received according to him. The Rent Roll shows that the total to be paid in 1891 was $191,198.64. Have you ascertained how much of that has really reached the Treasury?
A. Yes, $180,249.25.
Q.—But according to this book there was a balance due of $88,119.62. Have any steps been taken to ascertain whether this is really correct?
A. If you take the Rent Roll for 1892 you will find that the greater part of that is paid up.
Q.-Therefore that column was correct?
A.-Presumably. He could not have carried it on if it had not been because he had to deal with the public coming in to pay their taxes and he had to refer to this book every time and he was, in a sense, bound to keep it correct. If you look at the book you will see that there is very little difference between the arrears one year and another.
Mr. Bird.-Who kept the record of the amounts paid into the Treasury, of this $189,000?
A.-It was in a book kept by Alves. It was in the shroff's cash book also. Q.-Was it anybody's business to check it?
A.-It was never balanced.
Q.-Never?
A. Well, I know nothing about 1888 or 1889.
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Q.-Was 1890 ?
A.-No, it was not balanced, nor was 1891.
Q.-You have the book for 1890?
A.-In the Treasury.