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Q.-Do you know Mr. FRASER-SMITH?
A.—I do not.
Q.-You have seen him?
A.--Never.
Q-You have seen his brother, Mr. STUART-SMITH, perhaps?
A-Truly I have never seen him.
Q.-Have you ever told any one that you have paid any cumshaws to Overseers?
A.-Never, because I have never given any cumshaw.
Q.-Did you ever tell anyone that other people gave cumshaws?
A.-No. How could I know?
Q. When you were building that house for Mr. BOWDLER were you doing Govern-
ment work under contract at the same time?
A.-A little.
Q.--Was it the Break-water?
A. I built Mr. BOWDLER's house before I built the Break-water.
Q-But you have been doing Government work for 9 years, always had some work going on?
A. Yes. I have work every year.
Q.-Did you make a tender or estimate for this house?
A. A tender.
Q-What was the amount of your tender?
A.-$4,5.00.
Q. Hon. A. LISTER.-Don't you add on 15 per cent. when you have to build a
house at the Peak?
A. Yes; that is the custom.
Q.-Did this $4,500 include the 15 per cent?
A.-It included everything. The $4,500 was the sum I had to get.
Q.-You say that in tendering for Government Work at the Peak you add on 15 per cent, but in treating with a private party you can do what you like; but you know perfectly well that in building a house at the Peak, whether for Government or a private person, the bricks and lime have to be carried up, and therefore I suppose it costs you about 15 per cent more to build at the Peak than in the town. Is not that so?
A.-There is a difference of 15 per cent.