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Q.-Then I think also we found out that copper was drifting back again into the Hongkong and Shanghai Bank?

A.-It was accumulating at the Bank from our own offices.

Q.-That is to say, the Hongkong and Shanghai Bank, being the receiver for the Government, were obliged to receive copper?

A. Yes.

Q.-What was the large accumulation they complained of in 1881?

A.-About $2,000 worth, I think; between $2,000 and $3,000.

Q.-And we took that off their hands, did we not?

A.-Yes.

Q.-And that was handed to Contractors in the same way?

A.-Yes.

Q.-What amount of copper have you coming in now in that way?

A.-Very little.

Q.-What was the last lot you relieved the Bank of?

A.-$100.

Q.-And that was the accumulation of how long?

A.--A month or so.

Q.-The import of copper from England is stopped I think?

A. Yes, since 1882, about 18 months.

Q.-So this will set itself right in time?

A.-Yes.

Q. Do you ever pay Contractors now in copper?

A.-We give them very little, one or two per cent.

Q.-And that only sometimes?

A. Yes.

Q.-Does the Contractor have any warning he is going to get copper?

A.-No; they know perfectly well, because they are glad now to receive so little.

Q-Exactly, but some get paid without any copper?

A.—No; unless there are several payments in the month and the copper is all done. Then no one would get it.

Q.-Then don't you see what I mean? You may pay a man to-day and give him one per cent in copper, and another man to-morrow might get none at all.

A.—If you have no copper in the Treasury and none in the Bank several men would get none.

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