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Q.-Exactly, could you mention the name of the person who said that?

A.-No. I would rather not. I could.

Q.-You know the name of the person who said that, but you have scruples about mentioning it?

A. Yes. I would rather not mention it.

Q.-But you do know it?

A. Yes.

Q: Do you know any other names you have scruples about mentioning?

A. With regard to that particular matter do you mean?

Q.-Yes.

A.-No, I don't think I have heard more than two or three people make that

remark.

Q.-Then there were two or three people?

A-It was in the nature of a private conversation, and I don't think it is right.

Q. Well have you ever heard about anything else—that kind of thing?

A.-Well, remarks have been made that certain Officers have more money than they might be expected to get from their salaries.

Q.With regard to particular men?

A. No, generally.

Q-Well, you have heard that remark made by men.

names?

A. For the same reason I don't feel justified in doing so.

Q.-Have you heard any other remark of that character?

Can you mention their

A.-No, I don't think I have, except the general thing that these men receive cumshaws.

Q.-That you have heard from many individuals, and you could mention names but will not.

A. The person who made the remark about tossing up for salaries I could men- tion the name of, but I don't feel justified.

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-You have also heard the remark that Overseers receive bribes?

A. Yes, and that certain of them had amassed more money than they might be expected to.

Q.-Well, the difficulty we are in is this: Some seem to have signed the Memorial without understanding what they were doing, but you did; you signed it for the good of the department?

A.-For the good of the department and the service.

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