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494. And there was no firing in that case whatever?
A.-No.
495.-Do you remember any other cases
A. Several small cases.
496.--But you say "I have often had fights and several times people have been killed on both sides." You have only given us one case of people being killed. Can you give any other?
A.-Over at Macao we had a lot of men wounded.
497.—But in the vicinity of Hongkong you can only refer to one case?
A. Yes.
498. You cannot fix another case?
A.-No.
499.—And how long were you in command of the Kwashán?
A. About two years.
500. Now you speak about rice. Have you seized rice coming into Hongkong?
A. Yes.
501.-Had you any fights over that?
A.-No; it is generally in small quantities.
502.-What quantities?
A.-200 to 300 bags.
503.-You took that to Canton as well?
A. Yes.
504.-These boats with salt and saltpetre, were they heavily armed?
A. Yes.
505.-How many men had they?
A.-30 or 40 men.
506. You say it was a dark night; how could you tell?
A.-By their papers. Our own Chinese knew all about smuggling, and could tell
exactly how many men are on board.
507. Did they look like ordinary merchant junks?
A. Yes.
508. Had they a bigger armament?
A.--No, about the same. Some of them have three or four small cannons.
509.----How do you account for your eight men driving off these thirty or forty?
A.-You must remember we have gatling guns.
510.-You have iron shields, too?
A. We don't depend on them. A rifle bullet would go through them as easily as anything. They got a lot of nets round the launch, but that does not stop the shot.