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Japanese and the former Korean President had shown interest

in this. Japan's position was important. They had few political links with North Korea but did a lot of trade. Also, if North Korea was shown to have the capability to create nuclear weapons South Korea and Japan might follow

suit.

32. Mr Hum asked what evidence Russia had of the North's nuclear capability and how they perceived the economy. Mr Solovyev and Mr Afanasiev said they had no hard

information on the former. Eight Russian scientists who had

gone to the North on tourist visas had been told to come

back. As for the economy, it was deteriorating, but the

leadership could mobilize all parts of the community. The

people were used to hardship and already lived on rations.

They could survive, but further pressures could produce

dangerous results. Finally Mr Solovyev, emphasizing that he

was not criticising Mr Blix, regretted that Yongbyon had not

been on the original normal inspection list.

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ASIA PACIFIC SECURITY

33. Owing to lack of time, discussion was very brief. It was agreed that several Asian countries were looking for a forum for security dialogue. The Russians agreed that such

a forum was needed and that the ASEAN PMC was a good place

to start. Sir John Coles said the UK welcomed that forum.

The EC was a dialogue partner and had a contribution to

make. Mr Solovyev supported the proposal (made during

President Yeltsin's visit to South Korea) for a Research

Centre for the Settlement of Conflict in Asia. He suggested

it might be worth starting security dialogue at sub-regional

level. The Russians would have only guest status at the

ASEAN PMC in July. They wanted to participate more actively with ASEAN and become a full dialogue partner. Already

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