Q.

Wasn't the alternative to kowtow to use the language that David

Howell used to kowtow to China, after all we do still run Hong

Kong.

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Hold on, kowtow. The Chinese would say we've signed an agreement with you the British Government. We've lodged it at the United

Nations. All we want to do is stick to that agreement. The

Chinese do stick to their agreements. I don't doubt Chris

Patten's good intentions but you know the road to hell is paved with good intentions and I think that it is

Mr Patten who has to find the way out of this scenario and not

the Chinese.

Q

So he's been precipitate, he's rushed at it, bull at a gate and

all that?

A

Well, he's no experience of dealing with the Chinese and I think

that the Chinese play things long and they stick to their

agreements. He has broken that agreement. There is little

doubt in my mind or those who've studied it and this sort of

publish and be damned attitude to these proposals I think is

very unfortunate for the people of Hong Kong. They are the ones

who are going to suffer. It's not the people of China who are

going to suffer and it's certainly not of course the people of

Britain. He is really gambling with the future stability and prosperity of Hong Kong and I don't really think that there is much to be gained because I repeat David Howell's words,

democracy is on its way to Hong Kong.

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