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judiciary, in all sorts of places, coming up and clearly showing that what I had said earlier was something that mattered. Their attitudes have obviously been affected in some way or other and they seem to me to be people in whose hands a lot of it might have a better chance than in other hands. I'm not again being too optimistic.
Senator Schacht: On that point from AliTay we will conclude. I've just been reminded by Jocelyn (Chey) about
Australia the question of one country, two systems. supports the Joint Declaration of course.
My view, I
suppose, in philosophical terms is in the end I want China with one system which is a democratic plural system for all of China, irrespective of Hong Kong, Taiwan or the People's Republic, whichever way it goes in the end I hope there is only one system and it's a pluralistic democratic system that philosopîcally us democrats and countries like Australia support.
Question:
But you do see their current attitudes as being inimicable to that play?
Senator Schacht: I think at the moment they are trying to fence it off and trying to much as much pressure on that the system they inherit, the second system, or the Hong Kong system, is as least democratic as they can get away with, so that it is not the so-called democratic Trojan horse inside a unified China and Hong Kong. If the Hong Kong system they inherit is very limited democracy, the limited the better will suit them even though it's still a different system.
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