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So, if you give us, or if the Chinese were to

give us only window dressing democracy, then it just won't do

it

what we need is effective democracy. And I believe that

was the basis on which you ratified the Joint Declaration.

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MR EDWARD ROWLANDS: But, if you cannot get a degree of

consensus other than the minimal changes that you suggest,

or what appear to be, in your view, minimal changes isn't

the dilemma that on the one hand people say to us that they

want certainty, they want fixed in the Basic Law a clear

progression towards majority, although there is no agreement

But, if you get a minimalist, or lowest common

denominator solution and then fix it in this law that this

law will then be incapable of adapting to the

political

mood that might develop in Hong Kong with this highly

literate potential electorate you've got.

MR MARTIN LEE: Of course, ideally if we can reach consensus,

then that would be the best thing. But, if we could reach

consensus we would have reached it.

But, not to give us

genuine democracy simply because we cannot agree is like a

mother saying to two kids who cannot agree whether they

should have spaghetti or rice that therefore they should have

none.

MR EDWARD ROWLANDS: No, but given

what I am saying is that

do you think that lay down, that if in fact you cannot get

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