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The next item on the agenda is paragraph 75 - 77

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CHAIRMAN:

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of the Director of Audit's Report, which deals with the Civil Aviation

Department on the hiring of services and professional fees. May I

invite the Director of Immigration to appear before the Committee.

Mr Murphie, we're dealing with the Director of Audit's

Report, paragraph 75 - 77, on the hire of services and professional

fees. This Committee dealt with this kind of problem a number of

times. May I ask the Director of Immigration: are you familiar with

the existing procedures to guard against dishonesty in the collection

of the air passenger departure tax?

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DI:

Yes, I'm fairly familiar with the procedures involved.

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CHAIRMAN: "Whether the cost of any additional anti- corruption measures that might be necessary would be significant in

view of the simple nature of the task and the fact that there is

already in existence control procedures that would detect any incidence of corrupt practices." In other words, the procedures of anti-corruption measures is quite simple and in your view would any

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DI: No, on the contrary. It appears to us that if we were to take over the duties which we are asked to take over, these duties are not checked, they're not audited or effectively monitored in any way, and that if we took the duty over we would have to find

ways of making the procedure secure. Let me say, first of all, there's no question of our wanting to avoid a duty simply because there are corruption opportunities there. There's no question of us not having confidence in the integrity of our staff. But it is basic

Government philosophy that where we undertake a duty we must have

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procedures are done in this way and, of course, all our procedures are carefully vetted by the Anti-Corruption Department of the ICAC.

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The point here is that if we take over these duties, which at present 36

32 procedures which are carefully vetted to ensure that there are proper

security features and proper anti-corruption features.

All our

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