6

H.B:

I'M HAPPY OR UNHAPPY

AN EXERCISE TO IN HONG KONG

VIEWS ARE,

IS, IS

DONE,

OUT

VERY

OF.

THE

CARE.

THAT

WHETHER I COULD: 'T SAY THAT I THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY OFFICE REPORT. IT WAS TRY TO BE AS. OBJECTIVE AS POSSIBLE ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE IN THOUGHT ABOUT A SERIES OF ISSUES. SO WHATEVER THOSE

HETHER I AM HAPPY OR INHAPPY ABOUT ANY ONE PART OF THEM REALLY IRRELEVANT. IF YOU MEAN ABOUT THE WAY IN WHICH IT WAS AETHINK IT'S RIGHT TO SA THAT THE SURVEY OFFICE CARRIED

PRECISELY, THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT IT HAD BEEN GIVEN IN ITS TERMS REFERENCE, AND THOSE TI RMS OF REFERENCE WERE PUBLIC RIGHT FROM BEGINNING. THEY'VE CAR IED OUT THEM OUT EXACTLY, AND WITH GREAT TWO OTHER POINTS I MAK! ON THAT. ONE IS, THAT THE MASSIVE DETAIL COMES WITH THE SURVEY (FFICE REPORT, IF YOU READ THE APPENDICES WELL, IS VERY INTEREST NG INDEED ON THE VIEWS OF THE PEOPLE OF HONG KONG ABOUT A WHOLE SER. ES OF ISSUES. I KNOW IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO IT'S WELL READ THROUGH, BUT FOR NY STUDENT OF HONG KONG SOCIETY,

COMES TO WORTH READING. THIRD 1OINT, WHEN THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL

IT WILL MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT SHOULD GO INTO THE WHITE PAPER,

OFFICE IN THE SURVEY BE TAKING ACCOUNT OF EVERYTHING THAT APPEARS REPORT. THERE IS NO QU! STION ABOUT RULING OUT ONE PARTICULAR CURRENT OF PUBLIC OPINION, ONE PARTICULAR FORM OF THE EXPRESSION OF PUBLIC

IEWS WILL BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, OPINION; ALL OF THOSE WERE PUT FORWARD.

!

AS

HOWEVER THEY

BEEN MAKING ANY

ANTHONY FLORES, OF COMMERCIAL RADIO: HAVE WE PROGRESS SINCE THE MEE ING THE FINANCIAL SECRETARY HAD WITH BRITISH ·

ARE AUTHORITIES ON THE TERITORY'S DEFENCE COSTS, AND HOW OPTIMISTIC YOU THAT WE WILL REACH AN AGREEMENT BEFORE THE PRESENT PACT RUNS OUT?

}

HAD TWO MAJOR

ROUNDS OF ALKS AT A LOWER LIVEL BETWEEN OFFICIALS TRYING AN AGREEMENT. DETAILS. WE HAVEN'T YET REACHED

SAY WHEN WE WILL. REACH AN AGREEMENT. I CAN'T S Y WHETHER WE WILL REACH AN AGREEMENT OR NOT, BEFORE THE PRESENT E WILL REACH AN AGREEMENT

YEAR.

H.E. WE'RE STI L TALKING. THEY'V TALKS AND THEY'VE HAD TO WORK ON SOME OF THE I CANNOT, AT THIS STAG IN FACT, OF COURSE, BUT I AM HOPEFUL THAT ONE RUNS OUT EARLY NEX

IT IS FAIR FOR THE UPKEEP OF FOR BRITAIN TO REFUSE O PAY A HIGH

PAY THE GARRISON, AND DO YOU THINK THAT IT IS FAIR FOR HỎNG KONG TO 78 PER CENT OF THE BIL .?

KEVIN SINCLAIR: YES, SIR DAVID, DO YOU THINK THAT

PERCENTAGE

H.E. I THINK THE ONLY ANSWER THAT I CAN SENSIBLY GIVE TO THAT COSTS IS TWOFOLD. ONE, HONG ONG HAS BEEN PAYING PART OF THE GARRISON TOR A VERY LONG TIME. WO, HONG KONG ALWAYS TRIES TO MAKE SURE IT PAYS AS LITTLE AS I POSSIBLY CAN.

YOU EARLIER

THAT

SAID THE

ANN QUON, OF THE SOUTH CHINA MORNING POST: THAT THERE WAS A NEED TO MAINTAIN THE RATE TO THE, OR THE PEG, TO U.S. DOLLAR, BUT MAINTAINING THE PEG IS NOT THE SAME AS KEEPING THE RATE AS IT IS PRESENTI (. DO YOÙ SEE ANY, ARE YOU PLANNING OR RE-VALUE THE DOLLAR, AND IF NOT, AT WHAT POINT WOULD DOING SO?

TO RE-PEG YOU CONSIDER

H.E. I SEE, THANK YOU. I HOPE I DIDN'T LEAVE ABOUT THAT BY MAINTAINING THE PEG I MEANT PEG AT ITS PRESENT LEVEL.

ANY UNCERTAINTY

PRECISELY

MAINTAINING

THE

/ANN QUON

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GIS/L/F/1502 (oontime)

NTA

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November 24, 1987

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OPPR

157

ANDA AR to man)

ANN QUON! ANY PLANS TO CHANGE IT?

H.E.: NO.

(five pages to follow)

1

ANN QUON: AT WHAT POINT WOULD YOU CONSIDER DOING SO?

! H.E. CERTAINLY NOT NOW.

A

WOULD

CONFIRM WILL BEGIN KONG

OUR то

OF K.K. WONG,

RTHK:

PLEASE YOU REPORT SAYING THAT HE BRITISH GARRISON IN HONG WITHDRAW BY 1995?

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SITUATION GARRISON SOME

H.E. THERE · RE NO PRECISE DATES FOR WITHDRAWAL. THE IS THAT BY JULY 1, 997, OBVIOUSLY, THERE CAN BE NO BRITISH LEFT HERE. IT FOLLOS FROM THAT THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE

HERE ARE NOT SORT OF A RUNDOWN.

LIKELY TO BE ANY WITHDRAWALS OF

PROGRAMME FOR THE PRECISE

THOSE MAJOR UNITS UNTIL TE 1990'S. BUT

AND WORKED OUT.

EVEN WHEN A SORT OF WITHDRAWALS HAS NOT YET BEEN

REVIEW FRAMEWORK IS PUT IN PLACE IT IS ALWAYS OF COURSE ACCEPTABLE TO

NOW, WITHIN OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

THAT AND TO CHANGE IT IN THE LIGHT

THAT ONE WOULD OVERALL FRAMEWORK, THINK IT'S ALSO RIGHT TO SAY

TO TAKE

OF ACCOUNT EXPECT TO SEE REDEPLOYMENTS OF MINOR CHANGING CIRCUMSTANCES.

FORCES

NO DEALS

OF.

THAT

MAGGIE NELSON, OF RTHK: CAN PEOPLE BE CONFIDENT THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE WITH CHINA OVER DELAYING THE INTRODUCTION DIRECT ELECTIONS UNTIL AFTER 1990? AND IS THE GOVERNMENT ADAMANT A CENTRAL PROVIDENT FUND WILL NOT BE INTRODUCED?

YES,

LINK!

LAST

THE

ΤΟ

AN OBVIOUS H.E.: THAT I: ANOTHER TWO QUESTIONS WITHOUT

DEAL WITH CHINA. I PEOPLE CAN BE (ONFIDENT. THERE IS NO

DIDN'T KNOW AT THAT POINT WE WENT UP TO CHINA IN SEPTEMBER. RESULTS OF WHAT THE SURVEY OFFICE REPORT WOULD BE. I MADE IT CLEAR

WE HAD SEEN THE CHINESE THAT WE WOULD NOT BE TAKING DECISIONS UNTIL

THE YOUR

WAS SECOND ONE WHAT THE SURVEY OFF CE REPORT HAD TO SAY. PROVIDENT FUND. WHA WAS THE PRECISE QUESTION? I AM SORRY.

MAGGIE NELSON: IS IT ADAMANT?

ΤΟ LEGCO THAT IT WOULD NOT BE

AND THE

THE REASONS WERE

TWOFOLD. PEOPLE,

AMOUNT

H.E.: I SAID IN MY SPEECH INTRODUCED AND THE 1 EASONS FOR IT. ONE, WE BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEMS FOR RETIRED PEOPLE, FOR OLD AND FOR SICK PEOPLE CAN BEST BE DEALT WITH IN ANOTHER WAY AND THAT THE WAY IN WHICH I UTLINED IN MY SPEECH. IT IS TO PROVIDE A MEANS FOR. A THESE PEOPLE TO LOCK AFTER THEMSELVES WHICH DOES NOT' REQUIRE

WORDS, IT IS (A CONTINUING FORCED CONTRIBUTION FROM THEM. IN OTHER SCHEME BY WHICH THOSE IN EMPLOYMENT GET PAID A CERTAIN DEFENDING ON THEIR INAL WAGE AND DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THEY HAVE BEEN IN EMPLOYMENT. IF YOU HAVE A CENTRAL PROVIDENT FUND SCHEME FIRST OF ALL IT IS A FORCED AVINGS WHICH SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT LIKE SECONDLY

ARE NOT IT DOES VERY LITTLE FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE LOW PAID OR WHO IN WORK BECAUSE THE CAN'T TAKE PART IN IT. SO THAT IS HALF OF IT. THE KIND OF OTHER HALF IS THE EFECT THAT A CENTRAL PROVIDENT FUND, THAT FORCED SAVING, WOULD HAVE ON THE HONG KONG ECONOMY AND THE FLEXIBILITY WHICH · HAS ALWAYS BEEN OUR VERY STRONG POINT. AND FOR THOSE TWO REASONS, ONE POSITI 'E, ONE NEGATIVE, THE GOVERNMENT DECIDED THAT A CENTRAL PROVIDENT FIND WAS NOT THE RIGHT WAY FORWARD FOR HONG KONG.

p.7

/EMILY LAU

۱

REVIEW! SIR DAVID. I THE ACTIVITIES OF

OBSERVATIONS THAT FOR LEADERSHIP, RISING ACTIVITIES OF THE UNITED BD GETTING THAT LEADERSHIP FROM

EMILY LAU, OF THE FAR EASTERN ECONOMIC A QUESTION ON CONFIDENCE AND THE RISING CHINESE COMMUNISTS IN HONG KONG. DO YOU AGREE WITH THE HONG KONG PEOPLE ARE NOW DESPERATELY LOOKING PARTICULARLY IN THE LIGHT OF THE FRONT, AND WHEN THEY DON'T SEEM TO EXCO OR LENCO?

H.E. PEOPLE HERE, I THINK, WOULD HAVE TO TELL ME WHETHER HONG WHAT SORT OF KONG PEOPLE ARE DESPERATELY LOOKING FOR LEADERSHIP AND

I THINK,

THE PRESENT DIFFICULT,

IN LEADERSHIP. IT IS QUITE

IS A OIRCUMSTANCES TO PROVIDE EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE LOOK FOR. THERE

AND ALWAYS GOVERNMENT HERE WHICH IS EXTREMELY ACTIVE

OFTEN YOU GET WILL GO ON BEING ACTIVE. BUT SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR MUCH MORE THAN WIS IN A POSITION TO PROVIDE. NOW THE REASONS FOR

VERY

HAS BEEN

AND

A

PSYCHOLOGICAL

THE GOVERNMENT

THAT ARE NOT EASY ARE

FOR ANY OF US TO EXPLAIN. IT IS A PSYCHOLOGICAL FACTOR. IF PEOPLE

THEN THAT IS A FAILURE OF OUR FEELING THAT THEY LACK LEADERSHIP

FEEL SYSTEM. WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO CREATE A SOCIETY IN WHICH PEOPLE

AND I OF

FUTURE TOGETHER, THE THAT THEY ARE FACING THE PROBLEMS

HAVE HONG FOR

KONG BECAUSE WE DO BELIEVE THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT

THESE TOGETHER AS A PROBLEMS TO FACE. BUT IT MUST BE FACING ALL OF

THE COMMUNITY AND THAT IS BOTH THE GOVERNMENT AND THE PEOPLE, BOTH EXECUTIVE COUNCIL AND THE LEGISLATIVY COUNCIL. PRECISELY WHAT YOU LOOKING FOR IN YOUR QUESTION IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DISCOVER THEREFORE TO ANSWER.

ARE

AND.

AGREE THAT COMMUNISTS IN FIRST OF ALL?

EMILY LAU: SIR DAVID, WHAT I AM SAYING IS, DO YOU THERE IS THIS RISING INFLUENCE OR INFILTRATION OF THE

HONG KONG SOCIETY? DO YOU ACCEPT THAT AS A FACT,

BY AND DO YOU ALSO ACCEPT THAT THE PEOPLE IN GENERAL ARE VERY WORRIED

THEN THAT IS FINE, THIS TREND? OF COURSE, IF YOU DISPUTE ALL THAT, BUT IF YOU ACCEPT THAT, THAN WHAT IS THE GOVERNMENT DOING ABOUT EMHAN, OF COURSE WE UNDERSTAND '97 IS A REALITY, OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME OUT AND TELL THE PEOPLE THAT THAT IS IT, YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT?

"

I

WHAT I NOTICE H.E. LET ME TRY TO ANSWER THAT. FIRST OF ALL,

THAN USED HAPPENING IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF MANY MORE LINKS WITH CHINA

ONE IS TO EXIST BEFORE AND I SEE THAT HAPPENING FOR TWO REASONS.

IS OPENING

UP. STRAIGHTFORWARD ECONOMICS. CHINA IS DEVELOPING,

CHINA THAN THEREFORE PEOPLE ARE MUCH MORE INVOLVED ECONOMICALLY WITH

IN THEY EVER WERE BEFORE. SECONDLY, PEOPLE HAVE AN EYE TO THE FUTURE.

PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF 1997 HONG KONG IS GOING TO BE AN S.A.R. OF THE

THE CONTACTS CHINA. THEREFORE PEOPLE ARE RE-ESTABLISHING MANY OF

AND WHICH WERE WHICH THEY USED TO HAVE WITH THE MAINLAND OF CHINA

SO THAT IS TEMPORARILY BROKEN BECAUSE OF POLITICAL EVENTS IN CHINA. HAPPENING. THAT PRODUCES A FEELING OF A GREATER DEGREE OF CHINESE INFLUENCE IN THIS TERRITORY. NOW THE NEXT PART OF YOUR QUESTION, CAN OR SHOULD BE DONE ABOUT IT. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WE HAVE TO

ROUGHLY, HONG KONG AT THE REALITY OF THE FUTURE. IN 10 YEARS' TIME,

OF CHINA. CERTAIN IS GOING TO BE AN S.A.R. OF THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC

IS GOING TO BE A CONDITIONY ARE LAID DOWN FOR THE FUTURE BUT IT

MUST BE CHANGE. WE MUST BE PREPARING OURSELVES FOR THOSE CHANGES. WE TRYING TO BUILD UP A HONG KONG WHICH IS STRONG WITHIN ITSELF SO THAT IT HAS THE BEST POSSIBLE CHANCE OF CARRYING OUT IN PRACTICE THAT DEGREE OF AUTONOMY WHICH IS PROMISED FOR IT IN THE JOINT THAT, I THINK, IS THE WAY FORWARD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WHAT

LOOK

HIGH

DECLARATION.

i

/CAROL BOGERT

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