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PHI/HCR/0287 10JUN86 ATTN: HC, DHC, HOMANN-HERIMBERG, MOUCHET FURTHER PHI/HCR/0273

PRIMO FORMAL INTER-AGENCY MTNG CONVENED TODAY AT MFA AS SCHEDULED, WITH AMB VILLA (ASST MIN FOR ASIAN AND PACIFIC AFFAIRS) CHAIRING, ATTENDED BY MIDDLE-LEVEL TECHNICAL REPRESENTATIVES FROM MFA, NATIONAL COMMITTEE ON ILLEGAL ENTRANTS, COMMISSION ON IMMIGRATION AND DEPORTATION, PHILIPPINE NAVY AND PHILIPINE COAST GUARD..

SECUNDO MTNG BEGAN, AS EXPECTED; WITH ENTIRE GRP STATING PROBLEM EX-CHINA CASES WAS SOLELY/SOLELY A REFUGEE PROBLEM COMPLETELY WITHIN COMPETENCE AND JURISDICTION OF UNHCR, INDEED PARTLY CAUSED BY UNHCR DUE TO RESETTLING VNDPS IN PRC INSTEAD OF IN AUL, CAN, FRA, FRG, USA. ETC IN THE FIRST PLACE.

GRP THEN WENT ON EXPRESS ITS COMPLETE EXASPERATION THAT EX-CHINA PROBLEM WAS CAUSING POLITICAL AND FINANCIAL PROBLEMS TO GOP WHEN THEY WANTED TO HAVE NOTHING/NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH REFUGEE MATTERS. BBB GRP EXPRESSED ALARM FIRST AT THOUGHT OF HOW EVER TO ARRANGE RETURN TO PRC OF CONFIRMED EX-CHINA CASES WHO UNWILLING RETURN AND/AND SECONDLY AT PROSPECT OF MANY MORE EX-CHINA CASES COMING TO THE PHI BY ABUSING GOP'S CURRENT QUOTE OPEN DOOR UNQUOTE POLICY TOWARD INDOCHINESE REFS. CC HWEVR, DESPITE BEYER'S ATTEMPTS, GRP DID NOT/NOT WISH INFER THE OBVIOUS LINKAGE BETWEEN THE TWO ABOVE-MENTIONED PROSPECTS WHICH WUD NECESSITATE ANY GOP/GOP ACTION AT ALL. DOD GRP ENDED BY PLAINTIVELY ASKING, RATHER MORE RHETORICALLY THAN ACTUALLY, QUOTE WHEN AND HOW WILL THIS PROBLEM OF INDOCHINESE REFUGEES EVER END? UNQUOTE.

TERTIO BEYER THEN PRESENTED THE HQS-APPROVED UNHCR PROPOSAL (MNL/6581 DATED 6 JUNE 1986)/TO MTNG. AAA INITIAL GRP REACTION ENTIRELY NEGATIVE/NEGATIVE CONCERNING ANY/ANY GOP ROLE IN OPERATING NON-REFUGEE FACILITY FOR EX-CHINA CASES OR IN DETERMINING FORMER PLACES OF RESIDENCE IN PRC OR IN BILATERALLY ARRANGING RETURN TO CHINA WITH PRC. BBB GRP REITERATED ITS EARLIER STAND THAT THESE EX-CHINA CASES WERE STILL REFS/REFS, THAT GOP HAD NO/NO NON-REFUGEE FACILITY AVAILABLE FOR USE FOR EX-CHINA CASES, NO/NO STAFF TECHNICALLY COMPETENT TO CONDUCT INTERVIEWS, AND NO/NO WILLINGNESS TO EVER/EVER FORCE ANY EX-CHINA CASE BACK TO PRC AGAINST HIS/HER WISHES.

CCC BEYER COUNTERED THAT FACILITIES CAPABLE OF ACCOMMODATING 200 EX-CHINA CASES CERTAINLY EXISTED SOMEWHERE IN PHI, THAT UNHCR HAD ALREADY OFFERED TO OFFSET FINANCIAL BURDEN OF GOP'S CARE/MAINTENANCE EX-CHINA CASES, THAT GOP ALREADY AND ROUTINELY INTERVIEWED CHINESE AND VIETNAMESE ILLEGAL ENTRANTS (EG 19 SRV FISHERMEN RECENTLY CAUGHT POACHING OFF SULU ARCHIPELAGO AND NOW BEING DETAINED/INTERROGATED BY PHILIPPINE NAVY IN ZAMBOANGA) AND IF NEEDED. THAT HKG IMMIGRATION

TECHNIQUES AND AUTHORITIES WERE WILLING TO SHARE THEIR INTERVIEWING EXPERIENCE WITH GOP IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES, AND FINALLY, THAT HKG-PRC ALREADY ROUTINELY RETURNED TO CHINA ALL/ALL THOSE EX-CHINA CASES OF CONFIRMED PREVIOUS RESETTLEMENT IN PRC. DDD FINALLY, CID REITERATED ITS PREVIOUS COMPLAINT AGAINST UNHCR (SECUNDO · PHI/HCR/0273) CONCERNING UNHCR'S DETERMINATION THAT GRP 55 APARRI WAS EX-CHINA SINCE CID'S OWN/OWN LOCAL/LOCAL INTERVIEWER DETERMINED

EEE ΤΟ ENTIRE/ENTIRE GRP 55 TO COME FROM SRV/SRV NOT/NOT PRC/PRC. THIS LAST POINT BEYER THEN SUGGESTED AMENDING PARA C 2 OF MNL/6581 TO READ QUOTE UNHCR (EITHER ALONE OR JOINTLY WITH GOP/CID) WOULD CONDUCT INITIAL SCREENING AND ASSESSMENT OF THEIR REFUGEE STATUS UNQUOTE. FFF BUT GOP/CID THEN REITERATED ITS STAND TO NOT/NOT BE INVOLVED. THEY HWEVR STATED JOINT GOP/CID-UNHCR ACTION UNDER PARA C.5 WUD BE NECESSARY, NOT MERELY GOP/CID ALONE AS CURRENTLY STATED.

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