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CHAIRMAN SIMPSON: Mr. Secretary, address.
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suggested that when we get immigration, changes in the INA, that Wili It was something the Select Commission talked about. We're ready to
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Mr. Secretary, just a final word.
speak of the United States as the problem solver in the area of Southeast Asia, and in fact, we must do that. I look at this panel
here,
and each one of 1.1 OM this panel, together
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urged the administration to negotiate in the Cuban situation, and with the Vietnamese, at senior level That has been something I have spoken of so many times, not always with great popularity.
But I just think that if we're going to address these serious Concerns, ODP, orderly departure immigration,
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involving these
countries. And you're doing splendid work in Cuba. But if W✡ Were to somehow get to the point where, and to issues of repatriation in Southeast Asia, we're going to have to deal with the Vietnamese On a senior Level And if we want to resolve the Mariel-Cuban issue, must deal with the peoplé other than
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just through, perhaps, an
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intrasection. POWS, MIAs, it all falls in there.
It just seems difficult for me to believe that WE Can be a problem solver in Southeast Asia if we have no formal
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diplomatic relations with the problem maker in Southeast Asia, and that's Vietnam. So what steps, if any, is this administration taking to make repatriation, reeducation camps, ODF issues, a higher priority in the focus of our bilateral relations with Laos and Vietnam?
SECRETARY SHULTZ: Well,
Laos and Vietnam are different situations. You focused on Vietnam, which is the heart of the problem. Let me do so, as well. We've had a i
lot of discussions with them about the POW-MIA issue, and through the UNHCR on the orderly departure program. There has been quite an intensive effort on those matters of humanitarian concern.
However, I disagree with you about the advisability of changing our broad political and economic policy toward Vietnam. Our policy is that in addition to insisting, as a humanitarian matter, on resolving particularly the POW-MIA issue, that Vietnam get out of Cambodia, and that there be a resolution of that problem. In taking that position, we have been supporting the ASEAN countries, particularly the Thais and others, but the ASEAN approach in general. And supporting them in the United Nations. And I think, also, letting it be clear what the result is for Vietnam of the isolation they have imposed on themselves by their policies, which the world condemns.
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If you talk to people who have been to Hanoi, periodically, let's say the period of the last ten years, they wil tell you that
Teast as a matter of observation, if anything, it's worse. However,
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if you have visited periodically any of the other Southeast Asian capitals, or even Some of the cities that aren't in capitals. You see that there has been a genuine forward movement in the quality