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SENATOR SIMON: I'm going to lobby the Secretary Very briefly. And then a quick 30-second question where a 30-second answer. One is. erici I hope, and I agree with You on what you're doing in the Daniloff Case. I hope we don't forget these

efugees, or the hostages also, in Lebanon. It is I know it's an hgoing thing, but let me Just urge you to continue that. one very tragic case

okay. One very tragic Case. Now Mimon (?) j in the Soviet Union. His wife, Ina. He's been one of the Helsinki Watch group there, he wants to emigrate. His wife has and four

Second,

cancer operations. Her only chance for Life, really, is to get

Western medical technology. And I hope your people will continue to push on that.

SECRETARY SHULTZ: We're very alert to that case. Unfortunately, there are also others that also are in desperate

shape.

SENATOR SIMON: No question about it. Finally, and my question. I was very pleased with your statement to the writers group about the embarrassment that we CAUSE ourselves through this matter of asking about people's political beliefs, OY about their political activities, im connection with immigration. And I agree with you completely in what you said there.

Yesterday's New York Times has a story again, about woman, Finnish woman, who when she was in college joined the Communist

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Party, and then resigned from the Communist Party that, now all of a sudden she's up for deportation. I haven't talked to the Commissioner about this yet, but I think we'll get this resolved.

But it does seem to me that we ought to be taking statute itself. That really contradicts what, I thinky believe this country ought to stand

for.

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SECRETARY SHULTZ:

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what I meant to do in that statement at the Penn Meeting was to make a distinction between what somebody believes, and in our tradition of free speech, you believe what you believe and you speak about it. And we feel we're big enough to see through things that are phony. That's one situation. Another is, people who believe certain things and who are thereby dedicated to violent advocacy of those matters, and who would come here and try stir that up, Or Yalse funds for the purpose of violent advocacy, that's something different. And so

we need to make a distinction.

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SENATOR SIMON: I could not agree More But the law at the present time, as it is applied

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SECRETARY SHULTZ: It compels us to have the shoe on the wrong

I think, that's what it amounts

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