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RECORD OF CALL ON MR LUCE BY MR POUL HARTLING, UNITED NATIONS HIGH

COMMISSIONER FOR REFUGEES: 5 JUNE 1985, 9.50 am

Mr Luce

PS/Mr Luce

Mr Hartland Swann,

SEAD

Mr Galsworthy, HKD

Ms Walker, HKD

Mr Hartling

Mr Gordon-Lennox, Executive Assistant

to UNHCR

Mr von Arnim, UNHCR representative in

UK

1. Mr Hartling said that it was a timely moment, so soon after his

visit to Hong Kong and publication of the SCORRI report, to see

where we should go next and whether UNHCR could be of any help in

solving Hong Kong's refugee problem. Boat people were now more or

less forgotten, but there were still 34,000 awaiting resettlement,

of whom about a third (11,000) were in Hong Kong. Although it was

suggested by some people in Hong Kong that a few of them might

eventually be allowed to settle there, resettlement elsewhere

remained the only hope for the majority.

2. Mr Luce explained that the Government would not be in a position

to give a formal reply to SCORRI until July. He mentioned that the

Tamil problem was bound to add to the political difficulties of

dealing with the Hong Kong problem: 2000 had already come to the UK

(and many to Germany and other countries).

3.

Mr Luce said that there was very strong feeling in EXCO and the

Hong Kong community as a whole in favour of continuing to deter

refugees from travelling to Hong Kong. Some would like the Hong

Kong Government to turn refugees away; but that would be politically unacceptable in the UK. Mr Hartling said that Hong Kong

had a very good tradition of never sending refugees back and always

giving asylum. But he was well aware of the strength of feeling in

Hong Kong, particularly among local Chinese administrators, who

generally disliked the Vietnamese. Mr Luce confirmed that it was

not our intention to send refugees back. But there was still the

problem of the closed camps: we believed some form of deterrence needed to be maintained, coupled with increased resettlement.

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