In the debate on 19 February my noble friend Lord Gridley made

specific reference to the position of members of Her Majesty's

Overseas Civil Service in Hong Kong, and asked that a binding

agreement, such as a public officers' agreement, be provided for them between now and 1997. While the provisions of the agreement in

relation to pay and pension apply to members of HMOCS in Hong Kong

as much as they do to other civil servants, I take this opportunity

to reiterate the response I gave my noble friend on 19 February

that the Government recognises the particular concerns of HMOCS

officers in Hong Kong, and will continue to keep their interests in

mind in the 12 years leading up to 1997, including the question of a

public officers' agreement. I do not rule out a public officers'

agreement in due course: such an agreement may prove to be the best

means of laying down the provisions to be applied to HMOCS in Hong

Kong in respect of benefits payable after 1997. It is equally

possible that in the unique circumstances of Hong Kong there may

prove to be

be other ways of achieving these ends. In due course there

will need to be discussions with the Hong Kong Government on this

subject. But I would sound one note of caution. If we wish to make arrangements which will be truly durable, and thus provide a real

reassurance for HMOCS in Hong Kong, we should not make them precipitately or without full consultation and discussion of the

issues.

is

As I have said, the Government is firmly of the view that in current

circumstances the pensions and benefits of the Hong Kong Civil

Service, including members of HMOCS in Hong Kong, are not a subject

upon which there

a need to legislate in the

the manner proposed in

amendment before the House. I hope that the assurances I have given on the future position of the public service in Hong Kong will

satisfy my whole friend and the House as a whole, and that the

noble Lord will not press his amendment.

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