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CONFIDENTIAL

FM FCO 091810Z JULY 85

TO IMMEDIATE HONG KONG

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TELEGRAM NUMBER 983 OF 9 JULY.

76)YOUR TELNO 1385: STANDING ORDERS OF THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL

1. THANK YOU FOR WARNING US OF THE AMENDMENTS TO STANDING

ORDERS THAT YOU INTEND TO MOVE AT THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL SITTING

TOMORROW. WE CAN SEE THAT THERE WOULD BE TACTICAL ADVANTAGE IN

AMENDING SO 63 AT THIS STAGE IN ADVANCE OF ANY WIDER REVIEW OF

STANDING ORDERS. IN THE LIGHT OF THEIR RECENT ATTACKS ON THE

LEGCO (POWERS AND PRIVILEGES) BILL, A FURTHER CONFRONTATION WITH

THE LAW SOCIETY AND BAR ASSOCIATION NOW, ESPECIALLY ON THE

CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE OF THE TRIAL OF COMMERCIAL CRIMES, WOULD BE

MOST ILL-TIMED.

2.

IN THE TIME AVAILABLE WE CANNOT PROVIDE YOU WITH CHAPTER AND

VERSE ON HOUSE OF COMMONS PROCEDURES REGARDING SELECT COMMITTEES.

BUT WE DOUBT WHETHER YOU WOULD BE WISE TO JUSTIFY YOUR AMENDMENT

TO SO 63 ON THE GROUNDS THAT YOU ARE BRINGING LEGCO PROCEDURE

INTO LINE WITH THAT AT WESTMINSTER. AS WE UNDERSTAND THE

POSITION HERE, WHERE A SELECT COMMITTEE HOLDS A PUBLIC SESSION

THEN BOTH THE WRITTEN EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO THE COMMITTEE AND

CONSIDERED AT THAT SESSION, AND THE ORAL EVIDENCE TAKEN AT THE

SESSION, ENTER THE PUBLIC DOMAIN AT THAT TIME. BUT IN ADDITION

THE COMMITTEE HAS REGULARLY TO NOTIFY THE HOUSE OF ITS

PROCEEDINGS, AND IT IS ONLY AFTER IT HAS DONE SO THAT THE ORAL

· EVIDENCE IS ACTUALLY PUBLISHED BY HMSO. THIS THEN BECOMES THE

PUBLIC RECORD OF THE SESSION. IT IS NECESSARY TO BEAR IN MIND

ALSO THAT ALL THESE PUBLISHED RECORDS ARE NEVERTHELESS GOVERNED

BY THE WIDER RULES OF PARLIAMENTARY PRIVILEGE IN A NUMBER OF

WAYS.

3. THIS ROUGH SUMMARY IS TO INDICATE THAT THE RULES GOVERNING

THESE PROCEDURES AT WESTMINSTER ARE COMPLEX. IT WOULD SEEM TO US

SAFER TO PRESENT YOUR PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO SO 63 ON THE BASIS OF

POLITICAL REQUIREMENTS IN HONG KONG: TO REFER TO HOUSE OF COMMONS

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