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RECORD OF CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE FOREIGN SECRETARY AND THE CANADIAN SECRETARY OF STATE FOR EXTERNAL AFFAIRS HELD AT LANCASTER HOUSE AT 11.30 AM ON 11 DECEMBER 1984

Present:

Sir Geoffrey Howe QC MP

The Rt Hon The Baroness Young

Sir Derek Day

Mr DMD Thomas

Sir W Harding

Mr P J Weston

Mr N H Marshall

Mr L V Appleyard

Mrs S Rogerson (notetaker)

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The Rt Hon Joe Clark PC MP The Hon Donald C

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Mr G Weiner MP

Mr de Montigny Marchand

Ms Jody White

Mr ARA Gherson

Mr S Beattie

Mr S Brady

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UK/CANADA RELATIONS

1.

Sir Geoffrey Howe welcomed Mr Clark to London and emphasised the importance of continuing Ministerial exchanges for the bilateral relationship and for both countries' wider interests. go to Canada for the CPA meeting next year.

Arrangements for Consultation

He hoped to

2. Sir Geoffrey asked whether Mr Clark thought there was sufficient communication between their two Governments. Mr Clark said he would need official advice on whether contacts on the official side needed to be enhanced, but noted the number of Canadian Ministers who had recently visited the UK. He believed that more use could be made of Members of Parliament. In the past the relationship had been rather too formal and within the confines of existing organisations. He wished to broaden the scope of co-operation and the range of people involved; he was more interested in things happening than in the format. With the United States he was hoping to involve individual Parliamentarians in specific issues so that they could speak on an informed basis to their opposite numbers as politician to politician. Acid rain was a case in point. He suggested that UK and Canada might identify discrete areas which could be the subject of special attention by MPs. Canada's policy of privatisation might be a case in point; the

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