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Mr Dhanabalan commented that the Americans had behaved very

badly at the UN Conference for fear of giving unnecessary

offence to China.

11.

Mr Nathan then said that it would be useful if as many

of ASEAN's friends as possible could privately make it known

to China that they could not go on indefinitely supporting

Democratic Kampuchea. Lord Carrington undertook to ask

HM Ambassador in Peking to take action on these lines.

Mr Dhanabalan asked what would be the European position if the

loose coalition did not come off. Lord Carrington acknowledged

that it would be difficult for Britain. Cambodian credentials

had been a non-issue at the UN in 1981 but the Vietnamese

could make it an issue again. Mr Donald mentioned the

affinity of views between Cheysson and Ghazali at the October

meeting of ASEAN and EC Foreign Ministers over contacts with

Heng Samrin and the possibility of detaching him from Vietnam.

Mr Dhanabalan said that Ghazali had since changed his view.

It was difficult to see how Heng Samrin could be detached from

the Vietnamese. He thought Pen Sovan had been removed because

he was moving in that direction. Mr Nathan, reverting to

the question of advice to be given to Son Sann, said that he

needed to be told that he must not be the first to back away

from the idea of a coalition. He must stick to it and avoid

giving the Khmer Rouge an excuse to pass the blame.

12.

Lord Carrington then raised the question of Hong Kong

explaining that the British lease expired in 1997, but that when

he had raised the question with Deng Xiaoping during his visit

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