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Dear Jick,
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HICK Z12/1
1980
Turner Study
HICK 212
RECEIVED IN REGISTRY NO. 51
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8 JUN 1981
DESK OFFICER
I refer to Morrice's letter re: MDEX 212/44
REGISTRY Action Taken
7 November 1980, and apologise for this delay in respondit 23/6 due to the preoccupation of some colleagues with the 1991/ Budget.
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The attached annex sets out our views on the papers accompanying that letter, i.e. the comments of the Overseas Labour Adviser on Professor Turner's proposals and the assessment by the Economists Department. As far as possible we have tried to avoid reiterating what we have said before and these latest views therefore supplement those already expressed in my letter to you of 23 September 1980.
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I should only add that we have not commented further on three of Turner's proposals where the OLA generally agrees with our previous observations. These are :
(a) Serial 1
(b)
Serial 2
(c) Serial 7
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Compensation for "unreasonable" or "unfair" dismissal should be payable through the procedures of the Labour Tribunal;
Labour market information to be improved to facilitate employees' job choice; and
Provision for instruction and research in industrial relations and associated subjects by the Universities and Polytechnic, and particularly more extra-mural and workers' education services.
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R.D. Clift, Esq.,
(E. P. Ho)
Secretary for Social Services
Hong Kong & General Department,
Foreign & Commonwealth Office,
London SW1A 2AH, United Kingdom.
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Views on the comments of the
Overseas Labour Adviser on Professor Turner's proposals
Note :
The serial numbers referred to are those
used in the Commentary marked "Appendix 1" attached to your letter HKK 212/1 of
7 November 1980.
Annex
Serial 3
Trade union legislation should be clarified
in relation to federations and amalgamation : Fragmentation of Hong Kong trade union movement is a bar to orderly negotiating procedures e.g. in the Civil Service
Although the fragmentation of Civil Service trade unions may have impeded the development of consultative/negotiating machinery in the Civil Service in the past, this is not deliberate Government
policy nor is it the purpose of Section 55 of the Trade Unions Ordinance,
which only aims at preventing the federation of unregistered or improperly
constituted trade unions.
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Within the Civil Service, the Government has, since 1968, recognised three main staff associations, namely the Hong Kong Chinese Civil Servants Association, the Senior Non-expatriate Officers Association and the Association of Expatriate Civil Servants, as the Staff Side for joint consultation/negotiation. These three staff associations represent all grades of civil servants within the ambit of their respective constitutions and no grades of civil service employees are specifically excluded. After 1975 when a large number of grade
associations were formed it became difficult for the Government to extend
to all of them the same degree of recognition given to the three main staff associations.
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Hence when the Standing Commission on Civil Service Salaries and Conditions of Service was established in early 1979, one of its first tasks was to look into the consultative machinery in the Civil Service and make recommendations. In its Report No.4, inter alia, the. Standing Commission made recommendations -
(a) to establish and strengthen departmental
Consultative Councils where grade associations will be represented;
(b) to set up a new junior Consultative Council
as the central consultative machinery for junior civil servants, in particular those on Model Scale 1;
(c) to review the 1968 Agreement (jointly by the
Official and Staff Side's f. the Senior Civil Service Council) to see if it still meets
present day requirements;
(a) to strengthen and reinforce existing consultative
councils within the Police Force to ensure that the Police Force is consulted on all matters discussed
in the Senior Civil Service Council; and
(e) to set up proper grievance and complaints procedures.' These recommendations have been accepted by Government and plans for implementation are in hand.
Serial 4
The Standing Commission on Civil Service Salaries and Conditions of Service should be assisted by assessors appointed as having the particular confidence of the unions during the review of civil service negotiating and grievance procedures/ A comprehensive job evaluation scheme to provide a scientific basis for job gradings and comparability studies
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The Hong Kong Government recognises the need to have on the Standing Commission persons who are conversant with, and sympathetic to, the civil service employees' point of view. One such member
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Father McGovern 7 was appointed in Jensary 2073,
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appropriak background Andrew So 7 was appointed in December 1960. Moreover, Lombers of the Commission, by means of regular visits and meetings, are kept informed of staff interests,
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