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4. Sir Ian Gilmour asked if there was any solution. Mr Ke Hua said that the only effective method was to expose the policy of Vietnamese Government. Sir Ian Gilmour agreed but asked whether any action would be needed. Mr Ke Hua said that he had not had Long enough to consider the problem. He was most interested in Sir Ian Gilmour's views. Sir Ian Gilmour said that he too was better at recognising the problem than finding a solution. There were two aspects: that of Hong Kong and illegal immigration, and that of the boat people. We were encouraging the UN High Commissioner for Refugees to do what he could. We were trying to get other countries to recognise that they should expose the inexcusable behaviour of the Vietnamese. Mr Ke Hua said that Soviet Union had the most influence on the Vietnamese.

Sir Ian Gilmour said that he had seen the Soviet Ambassador about this and that Mr Lunkov had replied only that Vietnam was independent country.

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Sir Ian Gilmour said that he welcomed the currently good relations between China and Britain. China's relations with Hong Kong were also very good. The Governor's visit to China had been a success. Mr Ke Hua said that he had read Government speeches since the Government came into office and very much appreciated the kind words on China and the Government's opinions on various aspects of the international situation.

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Mr Ke Hua asked informally whether Mrs Thatcher would be able to visit China on her way back from the Tokyo Summit. Mr Murray said that Mrs Thatcher's schedule was very tight. She warmly remembered her previous visit to China. Sir Ian Gilmour said that Mrs Thatcher would very much like to go to China but would prefer to spend longer when she did go. The British Government looked forward to welcoming Premier Hua in October. Mr Ke Hua thanked the British Government for this invitation. He said that the Chinese knew Mrs Thatcher quite well and understood that she was busy: that was why he had not raised the question of her visit officially.

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