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of refugees.

We are inclined not to include the New

Zealanders or Japanese at this stage.

5. However we would then welcome a meeting at Ministerial

level with a somewhat wider membership, e.g. including New

Zealand and Japan and possibly Germany as well, but we see

much disadvantage in trying to set this up in London where

the emergence of a Ministerial cabal would be immediately

apparent. We think it would be wiser for Ministers

concerned to arrive in Geneva half a day earlier and to

meet informally there. We see some advantage in broadening

these prior discussions in Geneva to include ASEAN countries,

though perhaps at a second stage.

6. If the Australians agree with this procedure, we might

agree in the next few days on a list of countries who could

be encouraged to arrange for their Ministers to arrive in

Geneva in time for prior consultations there. Washington,

Paris and Ottawa should discuss this with Foreign Ministries

when stressing to them the importance of an effective

officials! meeting next week. We are repeating your TUR

to these posts and Geneva.

7.

Officials could profitably discuss the questions in

your para 7 when they meet next week. We agree that poli-

tical questions will inevitably be raised at Waldheim's

conference though Waldheim's intention is clearly mainly

humanitarian. It is not yet certain that Waldheim will

chair throughout (UKMIS Geneva telegram No 254).

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