The Chairan referred to what he and in the meeting of 20.6.1977 was fact that he suggested at the end of the weting, the two secretarios of noth sides should sit together and produce an agroad racord of the nseting - but now both sides produced asparuto recorda. He then quoted page 15 02 tila verbatim cinutes of the meeting held on 20.0.77, whách road as follows:

"In order to avoid argyraent and acendsscate, he proposed all to sit

Logather to make the fair copy of the minutes which had been taken word by word by the Staff Side nu soon as possible".

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Hrs. M. Chaung sɛid after the Staff Side handed a fair copy of the verbatin minutes to the official ide, the official Sile had agreed that it was a true record of the meeting. She wondered why the Official Side insisted to have a sumergsod the pointa discussed instead of having verbatim minutes. was of the opinion that it would waste a lot of time if they had to spend time to put in what had boạn wissen in the summarised minutes.

Bummarised ainutes. If the Official Bide agreed to use the verbatin minutes, the official Side oculi seks azendments to the verbatim minutes. She pointed out in using a musaarige i simtos, it would be in sose way alter the original intention of the meeting.

14. The Chairman said they had certainly not refused to accept the verbutin records; they had socepted a copy of the verbatim ninutes on the file. Thoy much preferred to have a sonoise muwary of the beeting rather than 20 paiçoe of verbatim rezurd - of repeating thin 8. However, he did not consider it was sotething they had to argue about. He said if the Staff Side winted to add thân p to draft minutes, please did so.

15.

Hrs. M. Cheung naid if the Official Side refused to have thứ verbatim ainutes as the final version of the minutes of meeting, simply because it was bein too long, they would not scoapt this point. They consideron but the minutes of mooting should be a true record of meeting ani au Shope two neetingo sere very important, and that mus why they hapad to have a verbatim minutos. She suggested two solutions - either to have a fair copy of the verbatia minutos as the final version or ask both sides to sit together anti discuss the verbatis minutes and to make ano:umenta together.

16.(m)

H. Kwok said according to his experience, minutes of ordinary meetingo were never taken word by word, except in the National Conferungan. It is trk: that verbatim minutos wore more comprehensive than the mmmm but it required a lot of time to read it through. Unless the neating was extremely important, ∙it would be a note of time to tako minutes word by word. It was the torgal

practice to use sumarised minutes. de wondered whether they could make that sort of arrangenenta for Baf, and he could assure tha Staf? dide that it was the nortal practice for mooting.

16.(4) Hrs. H. Cheung maid since they considered that the two nestinga ware vory important to their 400 SATs, and that was why they innistud to have verbatim minuitem because it concerned the promotion prospecta and the diary na wall.

It mae unreasonable to say that a verbatim minutes required a lot of time to read. considered it was reasonable because she considered if the ovent was worthwhile, and it was necessary to haw a detailed record of it and she refarced to the example of history study. If the part of history was important, everyona would rather spond a lot of time to read detailed history than a sumy description of avunts.

16.(c) Mr. Krok wondered if history was taken word by word.

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The Chairman then caid the Stuff Cida ahould tako Fe, Kwok'u udvice oa this point as he es very experienced in attending moetine.

17.

Kes. H. Cheung, speaking in her asuncity na Guiraun of the 2, referred to what had the Chairman of the Official Side mentioned just then that verbati ainutes contained repetitions and ane suggested to delete those part which had been repeated. Á sukarised (fautes tag iinclear. If the ufficial Vide arded the Staff 31dg to add anything they considerei nedumsary, it would in w very difficult thing for them.

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