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markets managed by us, the stalls themselves have to carry out modifications on their own. Can the Chairman of the Select Committee explain this?

Mr. Joseph Chan Yuek-sut (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, can we say that operators are at a loss what to do? The policy of the AFD and amendments to our Bylaws are actually very clear.

As to whether it is necessary to run H5N1 tests for all wild birds and poultry, the decision is not ours, but one for the AFD,

Going over to live chicken, wild chicken and other wild birds, the AFD has a detailed list of wild birds. If Mr. Chan wants it, we can pass on the request for AFD to follow up.

As to whether the AFD has informed traders, the answer is yes. On 6.3.1998, under Chapter 139 Public Health (Animal and Birds) (Animal traders) Ordinance, the AFD informed poultry traders that wild birds could not be sold along with live poultry. At present, 5 categories of chicken, geese, ducks, pigeons and quails can be sold together and the AFD has already informed traders. As for geese and ducks, we are implementing a segregation policy whereby dressed carcasses cannot be sold together with live chicken. This is the segregation policy of Central Government. Both the amendment and the decision of the Director of Agriculture and Fisheries are aimed at the same thing, which is the protection of public health.

The import of water birds is the jurisdiction of the AFD. In the event that the present new policy or any new regulation imposed by the Director of Agriculture and Fisheries inflicts loss on traders, as I said, the responsibility lies with Central Government or the AFD, not this Council. As to whether this Council can pursue the case on behalf of traders, I believe traders can negotiate directly with the said AFD during their regular liaison meetings. It would be better than pursuing through us.

As for the intention of the new policy, as I said just now, it is aimed at preventing the avian flu and the possibility of cross-contamination. For the protection of public health, there is need to put in partitions. As for the AFD asking ASD to put in partitions at the Western Wholesale Food Market, I do not have information in hand. In any case, it comes under the administration of AFD. As for poultry stalls in markets of this Council, stall operators should decide themselves. For stalls intending to sell dressed water birds and live chicken at the same time, they should either carry out suitable conversion works or acquire chilling cabinets with lids or self-closing mechanisms for storing dressed water birds. Either of the above is acceptable. This Council's main concern at this stage is to implement the decision of Central Government and the Inter-Departmental Co-ordinating Committee in protecting public health. As to the need for modification works at markets, if we do follow up, the Markets and Street Traders Select Committee will do so, not the Public Health Select Committee.

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Page 9 of 606 PROVISIONAL URBAN COUNCIL markets managed by us, the stalls themselves have to carry out modifications on their own. Can the Chairman of the Select Committee explain this? Mr. Joseph Chan Yuek-sut (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, can we say that operators are at a loss what to do? The policy of the AFD and amendments to our Bylaws are actually very clear. As to whether it is necessary to run H5N1 tests for all wild birds and poultry, the decision is not ours, but one for the AFD, Going over to live chicken, wild chicken and other wild birds, the AFD has a detailed list of wild birds. If Mr. Chan wants it, we can pass on the request for AFD to follow up. As to whether the AFD has informed traders, the answer is yes. On 6.3.1998, under Chapter 139 Public Health (Animal and Birds) (Animal traders) Ordinance, the AFD informed poultry traders that wild birds could not be sold along with live poultry. At present, 5 categories of chicken, geese, ducks, pigeons and quails can be sold together and the AFD has already informed traders. As for geese and ducks, we are implementing a segregation policy whereby dressed carcasses cannot be sold together with live chicken. This is the segregation policy of Central Government. Both the amendment and the decision of the Director of Agriculture and Fisheries are aimed at the same thing, which is the protection of public health. The import of water birds is the jurisdiction of the AFD. In the event that the present new policy or any new regulation imposed by the Director of Agriculture and Fisheries inflicts loss on traders, as I said, the responsibility lies with Central Government or the AFD, not this Council. As to whether this Council can pursue the case on behalf of traders, I believe traders can negotiate directly with the said AFD during their regular liaison meetings. It would be better than pursuing through us. As for the intention of the new policy, as I said just now, it is aimed at preventing the avian flu and the possibility of cross-contamination. For the protection of public health, there is need to put in partitions. As for the AFD asking ASD to put in partitions at the Western Wholesale Food Market, I do not have information in hand. In any case, it comes under the administration of AFD. As for poultry stalls in markets of this Council, stall operators should decide themselves. For stalls intending to sell dressed water birds and live chicken at the same time, they should either carry out suitable conversion works or acquire chilling cabinets with lids or self-closing mechanisms for storing dressed water birds. Either of the above is acceptable. This Council's main concern at this stage is to implement the decision of Central Government and the Inter-Departmental Co-ordinating Committee in protecting public health. As to the need for modification works at markets, if we do follow up, the Markets and Street Traders Select Committee will do so, not the Public Health Select Committee. Page 9 of 606 Page 9 of 606 Page 9 of 606

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markets managed by us, the stalls themselves have to carry out modifications on their own. Can the Chairman of the Select Committee explain this?

Mr. Joseph Chan Yuek-sut (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, can we say that operators are at a loss what to do? The policy of the AFD and amendments to our Bylaws are actually very clear.

As to whether it is necessary to run H5N1 tests for all wild birds and poultry, the decision is not ours, but one for the AFD,

Going over to live chicken, wild chicken and other wild birds, the AFD has a detailed list of wild birds. If Mr. Chan wants it, we can pass on the request for AFD to follow up.

As to whether the AFD has informed traders, the answer is yes. On 6.3.1998, under Chapter 139 Public Health (Animal and Birds) (Animal traders) Ordinance, the AFD informed poultry traders that wild birds could not be sold .along with live poultry. At present, 5 categories of chicken, geese, ducks, pigcons and quails can be sold together and the AFD has already informed traders. As for geese and ducks, we are implementing a segregation policy *whereby dressed carcasses cannot be sold together with live chicken. This is the :segregation policy of Central Government. Both the amendment and the decision of the Director of Agriculture and Fisheries are aimed at the same thing, which is the protection of public health.

The import of water birds is the jurisdiction of the AFD. In the event that the present new policy or any new regulation imposed by the Director of Agriculture and Fisheries inflicts loss on traders, as I said. the responsibility llies with Central Government or the AFD, not this Council. As to whether this Council can pursue the case on behalf of traders, I believe traders can megotiate directly with the said AFD during their regular liaison meetings. It would be better than pursuing through us.

As for the intention of the new policy, as I said just now, it is aimed at preventing the avian flu and the possibility of cross contamination. For the protection of public health, there is need to put in partitions. As for the AFD asking ASD to put in partitions at the Western Wholesale Food Market, I do mot have information in hand. In any case, it comes under the administration of AFD. As for poultry stalls in markets of this Council, stall operators should decide themselves. For stalls intending to sell dressed water birds and live chicken at the same time, they should either carry out suitable conversion works or acquire chilling cabinets with lids or self closing mechanisms for sitoring dressed water birds. Either of the above is acceptable. This Council's main concern at this stage is to implement the decision of Central Government and the Inter-Departmental Co-ordinating Committee in protecting public tuealth. As to the need for modification works at markets, if we do follow up, the Markets and Street Traders Select Committee will do so, not the Public Health Select Committee.

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