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There are some more examples. For instance, it is clearly stated in the papers concerned that the actual number of posts to be created under the Recreation Select Committee will depend on the specific arrangements and staff deployment as well as the review in future. I therefore hope that Members, unless there is a slip of the memory, will understand that the five-year plans were decided by all of us rather than by the Democratic Party. For the Culture Select Committee in particular, I am sure that Ms. Ada Wong is well aware that the staffing proposed was already included in the budget made then. If there was any objection, why wasn't it raised then? Members have indicated that they support the spirit of the request or motion raised by the Democratic Party today, but we consider that while the spirit is commendable, there is also the actual need. If we did not take the actual need seriously, we would not be implementing the five-year plans at all and we would only be wasting the efforts of the Members who drew up these plans.
When I spoke just now, I already made it clear that the staff to be employed did not have to be civil servants and so, the civil service would not become too cumbersome. We propose that staff be employed in contract terms and this is something that deserves Members' consideration.
The Chairman, Dr. Ronald LEUNG, just now mentioned a point and that is, the proposed posts for capital works might not be suitable for local workers. I have some queries concerning this statement. Did the Chairman imply that only imported labour would be suitable? In creating the posts, we naturally wish to accord local workers the priority for employment. I don't understand why he put forth such a view.
All in all, while we recommend 'to study' the issue in our motion, we are well aware that we are in fact aiming at implementing as quickly as possible the recommendation. As for the details or options in full, they will of course be left to the discussion of the committees concerned. Anyway, it is up to Members to decide this. I hope Members will understand that in putting forth the motion today, we are not asking for special creation of additional posts. We are only fulfilling our pledges to the community and the Council's plans drawn up earlier. I hope that after consideration, Members will support my motion. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman (in Cantonese):—While the mover has the right of reply, I do not. I will explain to Ms. Grace AU after the meeting why I had such a view.
The question is now put to the vote.
The question was put to the vote.
The motion was carried with 12 for, seven against and five abstentions. (The record of voting on Ms. Grace Au's motion is at Annex II.)
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There are some more examples. For instance, it is clearly stated in the papers concerned that the actual number of posts to be created under the Recreation Select Committee will depend on the specific arrangements and staff deployment as well as the review in future. I therefore hope that Members, unless there is a slip of the memory, will understand that the five-year plans were decided by all of us rather than by the Democratic Party. For the Culture Select Committee in particular, I am sure that Ms. Ada Wong is well aware that the staffing proposed was already included in the budget made then. If there was any objection, why wasn't it raised then? Members have indicated that they support the spirit of the request or motion raised by the Democratic Party today, but we consider that while the spirit is commendable, there is also the actual need. If we did not take the actual need seriously, we would not be implementing the five-year plans at all and we would only be wasting the efforts of the Members who drew up these plans.
When I spoke just now, I already made it clear that the staff to be employed did not have to be civil servants and so, the civil service would not become too cumbersome. We propose that staff be employed in contract terms and this is something that deserves Members' consideration.
The Chairman, Dr. Ronald LɛUNG, just now mentioned a point and that is, the proposed posts for capital works might not be suitable for local workers. I have some queries concerning this statement. Did the Chairman imply that only imported labour would be suitable? In creating the posts, we naturally wish to accord local workers the priority for employment. I don't understand why he put forth such a view.
All in all, while we recommend 'to study' the issue in our motion, we are well aware that we are in fact aiming at implementing as quickly as possible' the recommendation. As for the details or options in full, they will of course be left to the discussion of the committees concerned. Anyway, it is up to Members to decide this. I hope Members will understand that in putting forth the motion today, we are not asking for special creation of additional posts. We are only fulfilling our pledges to the community and the Council's plans drawn up earlier. I hope that after consideration, Members will support my motion. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman (in Cantonese):—While the mover has the right of reply, I do not. I will explain to Ms. Grace AU after the meeting why I had such a view.
The question is now put to the vote.
The question was put to the vote.
The motion was carried with 12 for, seven against and five abstentions. (The record of voting on Ms. Grace Au's motion is at Annex II.)
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