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Urban Council Proceedings 市政局議事錄 All AI Reviewed

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establishment similar to a club or mess sells or supplies liquor for sale to clients or members, it should theoretically apply for a liquor licence. As for the application procedures, there are leaflets for the reference of applicants. In simple terms, an establishment that supplies liquor to members as business, whether putting the bill on account or in any other way, is in principle required to obtain a liquor licence. The exception is a convenience store or supermarket where customers buy alcoholic drinks and leave without consuming on the premises. In such case, it is out of the jurisdiction of the LLB.

MR. CHRISTOPHER CHUNG SHU-KUN (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, I don't think the Chairman of the LLB comprehends my question. My question refers to canteens at police stations and police quarters with licence issued by the A & FD. My observation is that many such establishments do not hold liquor licences but supply liquor. How will the Board handle this?

MR. SAN STEPHEN WONG HON-CHING (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, I would like to advise Mr. CHUNG to report to the LLB on discovering such establishments. I cannot inspect similar establishments all over the place. The best thing is for him to contact the secretariat of the LLB or myself or provide written information when he discovers or suspects such activities. The LLB will then carry out inspections through the police or check the status of such establishments through the secretariat. The secretariat keeps a clear picture on the computer and can ascertain whether an establishment holds a liquor licence. I am of the opinion that establishments similar to messes or clubs at police stations selling liquor should apply for liquor licences at once.

Chairman (in Cantonese):—I think the last two supplementary questions have departed from the main question. We should not involve premises of other disciplined forces or the armed forces. Please do not sidetrack the issue.

MR. JOSEPH LAI CHI-KEONG (in Cantonese):—According to paragraph 4 of the reply document supplied by the Chairman of the LLB, Regulation 26(1) of the Dutiable Commodities (Liquor) Regulations, Cap. 109, applies. The Commissioner of Police has admitted that the Police Force should abide by that regulation. In fact, all government departments and the general public of the SAR are required to strictly comply with the law. Just now, the Chairman mentioned about the armed forces and even diplomatic corps in Hong Kong. If we try to include these, we will be going too far. In particular, matters of the armed forces fall within the scope of national defense. Now we have 98 messes or canteens at police stations and three of them are applying for licences. I want to ask the Chairman of the LLB whether the Urban Council will give priority to applications by these establishments if we require them to obtain liquor licences. It seems to be the simplest way to handle the matter.

Secondly, when the Police take enforcement actions in respect of liquor licences at the above-mentioned establishments, there will definitely be a role...

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Page 554 of 606 PROVISIONAL URBAN COUNCIL establishment similar to a club or mess sells or supplies liquor for sale to clients or members, it should theoretically apply for a liquor licence. As for the application procedures, there are leaflets for the reference of applicants. In simple terms, an establishment that supplies liquor to members as business, whether putting the bill on account or in any other way, is in principle required to obtain a liquor licence. The exception is a convenience store or supermarket where customers buy alcoholic drinks and leave without consuming on the premises. In such case, it is out of the jurisdiction of the LLB. MR. CHRISTOPHER CHUNG SHU-KUN (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, I don't think the Chairman of the LLB comprehends my question. My question refers to canteens at police stations and police quarters with licence issued by the A & FD. My observation is that many such establishments do not hold liquor licences but supply liquor. How will the Board handle this? MR. SAN STEPHEN WONG HON-CHING (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, I would like to advise Mr. CHUNG to report to the LLB on discovering such establishments. I cannot inspect similar establishments all over the place. The best thing is for him to contact the secretariat of the LLB or myself or provide written information when he discovers or suspects such activities. The LLB will then carry out inspections through the police or check the status of such establishments through the secretariat. The secretariat keeps a clear picture on the computer and can ascertain whether an establishment holds a liquor licence. I am of the opinion that establishments similar to messes or clubs at police stations selling liquor should apply for liquor licences at once. Chairman (in Cantonese):—I think the last two supplementary questions have departed from the main question. We should not involve premises of other disciplined forces or the armed forces. Please do not sidetrack the issue. MR. JOSEPH LAI CHI-KEONG (in Cantonese):—According to paragraph 4 of the reply document supplied by the Chairman of the LLB, Regulation 26(1) of the Dutiable Commodities (Liquor) Regulations, Cap. 109, applies. The Commissioner of Police has admitted that the Police Force should abide by that regulation. In fact, all government departments and the general public of the SAR are required to strictly comply with the law. Just now, the Chairman mentioned about the armed forces and even diplomatic corps in Hong Kong. If we try to include these, we will be going too far. In particular, matters of the armed forces fall within the scope of national defense. Now we have 98 messes or canteens at police stations and three of them are applying for licences. I want to ask the Chairman of the LLB whether the Urban Council will give priority to applications by these establishments if we require them to obtain liquor licences. It seems to be the simplest way to handle the matter. Secondly, when the Police take enforcement actions in respect of liquor licences at the above-mentioned establishments, there will definitely be a role... Page 554 of 606
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establishment similar to a club or mess sells or supplies liquor for sale to clients or members, it should theoretically apply for a liquor licence. As for the application procedures, there are leaflets for the reference of applicants. In simple terms, an establishment that supplies liquor to members as business, whether putting the bill on account or in any other way, is in principle required to obtain a liquor licence. The exception is a convenience store or supermarket where customers buy alcoholic drinks and leave without consuming on the premises. In such case, it is out of the jurisdiction of the LLB.

MR. CHRISTOPHER CHUNG SHU-KUN (in Cantonese):-Mr. Chairman, I don't think the Chairman of the LLB comprehends my question. My question refers to canteens at police stations and police quarters with licence issued by the A & FD. My observation is that many such establishments do not hold liquor licences but supply liquor. How will the Board handle this?

MR. SAN STEPHEN WONG HON-CHING (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, I would like to advise Mr. CHUNG 10 report to the LLB on discovering such establishments. I cannot inspect similar establishments all over the place. The best thing is for him to contact the secretariat of the LLB or myself or provide written information when he discovers or suspects such activities. The LLB will then carry out inspections through the police or check the status of such establishments through the secretariat. The secretariat keeps a clear picture on the computer and can ascertain whether an establishment holds a liquor licence. I am of the opinion that establishments similar to messes or clubs at police stations selling liquor should apply for liquor licences at once.

Chairman (in Cantonese):-I think the last two supplementary questions have departed from the main question. We should not involve premises of other disciplined forces or the armed forces. Please do not sidetrack the issue.

MR. JOSEPH LAI CHI-KEONG (in Cantonese):-According to paragraph 4 of the reply document supplied by the Chairman of the LLB. Regulation 26(1) of the Dutiable Commodities (Liquor) Regulations, Cap. 109, applies. The Commissioner of Police has admitted that the Police Force should abide by that regulation. In fact, all government departments and the general public of the SAR are required to strictly comply with the law. Just now, the Chairman mentioned about the armed forces and even diplomatic corps in Hong Kong. If we try to include these, we will be going too far. In particular, matters of the armed forces fall within the scope of national defense. Now we have 98 messes or canteens at police stations and three of them are applying for licences. I want to ask the Chairman of the LLB whether the Urban Council will give priority to applications by these establishments if we require them to obtain liquor licences. It seems to be the simplest way to handle the matter.

Secondly, when the Police take enforcement actions in respect of liquor licences at the above mentioned establishments, there will definitely be a role

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