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we must view the whole thing from all perspectives. Will our review be a comprehensive one? I consider that we should look at the issue from top to bottom, from every perspective, every direction and every angle. I hope that the review can be conducted as soon as possible and will involve each and every staff-member in a top-down and bottom-to-top manner.

Mr. Suen Kai-CHEONG (in Cantonese):- The reason why the reply focuses on junior staff is that the question is merely about the supervision over field staff. Basically field staff do not belong to the senior supervisory category and therefore the written reply places emphasis on staff of middle and junior ranks. Under the existing supervisory framework, there are chains of command.

As for the timing of the review, I forgot to answer this part when I answered Mr. Wu Chi-wai's question just now. I answer the question now. I cannot give an indefinite date, but for the time being I cannot give a fixed date either. The fact is that I don't have the information with me right now, which should be prepared by the Department. I will request the Department to prepare the relevant paper as soon as possible for Members' discussion.

Mr. Joseph Lai Chi-Keong (in Cantonese):-I have some more questions to follow up on the reply of the Chairman of the Select Committee. The number of misconduct cases in relation to the total strength of some 17 000 is of course very small, but it is not insignificant in relation to its own rank. I would like to ask the Chairman of the Select Committee the number of Workmen I and II being supervised by a Foreman and the number of Foremen being supervised by a Senior Foreman. I asked for these figures just now but a reply from the Chairman of the Select Committee is still awaited,

MR. SUEN KAI-CHEONG (in Cantonese):-Mr. Chairman, I don't have the information now. I will ask the Department to forward the information to Mr. Joseph LAI after the meeting.

Chairman (in Cantonese): - -If there are no more follow-up questions, we will go on to the next question. Would Mr. Christopher CHUNG ask his question?

(2) MR. CHRISTOPHER CHUNG SHU-KUN asked (in Cantonese):—'With regard to the Council's subsidy for the Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra, I have the following questions:--

(i) For the past two years, what is the amount of the Council's subsidy for the Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra?

(ii) Apart from subsidizing the Orchestra by providing direct funding, has the Council purchased its programs? If yes, what is the amount paid in each of the last two years?

(iii) In what areas has the Council's direct funding for the Orchestra been spent?

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we must view the whole thing from all perspectives. Will our review be a comprehensive one? I consider that we should look at the issue from top to bottom, from every perspective, every direction and every angle. I hope that the review can be conducted as soon as possible and will involve each and every staff-member in a top-down and bottom-to-top manner.

Mr. Suen Kai-CHEONG (in Cantonese):- The reason why the reply focuses on junior staff is that the question is merely about the supervision over field staff. Basically field staff do not belong to the senior supervisory category and therefore the written reply places emphasis on staff of middle and junior ranks. Under the existing supervisory framework, there are chains of command.

As for the timing of the review, I forgot to answer this part when I answered Mr. Wu Chi-wai's question just now. I answer the question now. I cannot give an indefinite date, but for the time being I cannot give a fixed date either. The fact is that I don't have the information with me right now, which should be prepared by the Department. I will request the Department to prepare the relevant paper as soon as possible for Members' discussion.

Mr. Joseph Lai Chi-Keong (in Cantonese):-I have some more questions to follow up on the reply of the Chairman of the Select Committee. The number of misconduct cases in relation to the total strength of some 17 000 is of course very small, but it is not insignificant in relation to its own rank. I would like to ask the Chairman of the Select Committee the number of Workmen I and II being supervised by a Foreman and the number of Foremen being supervised by a Senior Foreman. I asked for these figures just now but a reply from the Chairman of the Select Committee is still awaited,

MR. SUEN KAI-CHEONG (in Cantonese):-Mr. Chairman, I don't have the information now. I will ask the Department to forward the information to Mr. Joseph LAI after the meeting.

Chairman (in Cantonese): - -If there are no more follow-up questions, we will go on to the next question. Would Mr. Christopher CHUNG ask his question?

(2) MR. CHRISTOPHER CHUNG SHU-KUN asked (in Cantonese):—'With regard to the Council's subsidy for the Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra, I have the following questions:--

(i) For the past two years, what is the amount of the Council's subsidy for the Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra? (ii) Apart from subsidizing the Orchestra by providing direct funding, has the Council purchased its programs? If yes, what is the amount paid in each of the last two years? (iii) In what areas has the Council's direct funding for the Orchestra been spent?

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we must view the whole thing from all perspectives. Will our review be a comprehensive one? I consider that we should look at the issue from top to bottom, from every perspective, every direction and every angle. I hope that the review can be conducted as soon as possible and will involve each and every staff-member in a top-down and bottom-to-top manner.

Mr. Suen Kai-CHEONG (in Cantonese):- The reason why the reply focuses on junior staff is that the question is merely about the supervision over field staff. Basically field staff do not belong to the senior supervisory category and therefore the written reply places emphasis on staff of middle and junior ranks. Under the existing supervisory framework, there are chains of command.

As for the timing of the review, I forgot to answer this part when I answered Mr. Wu Chi-wai's question just now. I answer the question now. I cannot give an indefinite date, but for the time being I cannot give a fixed date either. The fact is that I don't have the information with me right now, which should be prepared by the Department. I will request the Department to prepare the relevant paper as soon as possible for Members' discussion.

Mr. Joseph Lai Chi-Keong (in Cantonese):-I have some more questions to follow up on the reply of the Chairman of the Select Committee. The number of misconduct cases in relation to the total strength of some 17 000 is of course very small, but it is not insignificant in relation to its own rank. I would like to ask the Chairman of the Select Committee the number of Workmen I and II being supervised by a Foreman and the number of Foremen being supervised by a Senior Foreman. I asked for these figures just now but a reply from the Chairman of the Select Committee is still awaited,

MR. SUEN KAI-CHEONG (in Cantonese):-Mr. Chairman, I don't have the information now. I will ask the Department to forward the information to Mr. Joseph LAI after the meeting.

Chairman (in Cantonese): - -If there are no more follow-up questions, we will go on to the next question. Would Mr. Christopher CHUNG ask his question?

(2) MR. CHRISTOPHER CHUNG SHU-KUN asked (in Cantonese):—'With regard to the Council's subsidy for the Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra, I have the following questions:--

(i) For the past two years, what is the amount of the Council's subsidy for the Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra? (ii) Apart from subsidizing the Orchestra by providing direct funding, has the Council purchased its programs? If yes, what is the amount paid in each of the last two years? (iii) In what areas has the Council's direct funding for the Orchestra been spent?

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Page 312 of 606 Page 312 of 606 Tage 312 of 606 304 # PROVISIONAL URBAN COUNCIL we must view the whole thing from all perspectives. Will our review be a comprehensive one? I consider that we should look at the issue from top to bottom, from every perspective, every direction and every angle. I hope that the review can be conducted as soon as possible and will involve each and every staff-member in a top-down and bottom-to-top manner. Mr. Suen Kai-CHEONG (in Cantonese):- The reason why the reply focuses on junior staff is that the question is merely about the supervision over field staff. Basically field staff do not belong to the senior supervisory category and therefore the written reply places emphasis on staff of middle and junior ranks. Under the existing supervisory framework, there are chains of command. As for the timing of the review, I forgot to answer this part when I answered Mr. Wu Chi-wai's question just now. I answer the question now. I cannot give an indefinite date, but for the time being I cannot give a fixed date either. The fact is that I don't have the information with me right now, which should be prepared by the Department. I will request the Department to prepare the relevant paper as soon as possible for Members' discussion. Mr. Joseph Lai Chi-Keong (in Cantonese):-I have some more questions to follow up on the reply of the Chairman of the Select Committee. The number of misconduct cases in relation to the total strength of some 17 000 is of course very small, but it is not insignificant in relation to its own rank. I would like to ask the Chairman of the Select Committee the number of Workmen I and II being supervised by a Foreman and the number of Foremen being supervised by a Senior Foreman. I asked for these figures just now but a reply from the Chairman of the Select Committee is still awaited, MR. SUEN KAI-CHEONG (in Cantonese):-Mr. Chairman, I don't have the information now. I will ask the Department to forward the information to Mr. Joseph LAI after the meeting. Chairman (in Cantonese): - -If there are no more follow-up questions, we will go on to the next question. Would Mr. Christopher CHUNG ask his question? (2) MR. CHRISTOPHER CHUNG SHU-KUN asked (in Cantonese):—'With regard to the Council's subsidy for the Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra, I have the following questions:-- (i) For the past two years, what is the amount of the Council's subsidy for the Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra? (ii) Apart from subsidizing the Orchestra by providing direct funding, has the Council purchased its programs? If yes, what is the amount paid in each of the last two years? (iii) In what areas has the Council's direct funding for the Orchestra been spent? Page 212 of 606 Page 312 of 606 should be corrected to Page 312 of 606 304 # PROVISIONAL URBAN COUNCIL we must view the whole thing from all perspectives. Will our review be a comprehensive one? I consider that we should look at the issue from top to bottom, from every perspective, every direction and every angle. I hope that the review can be conducted as soon as possible and will involve each and every staff-member in a top-down and bottom-to-top manner. Mr. Suen Kai-CHEONG (in Cantonese):- The reason why the reply focuses on junior staff is that the question is merely about the supervision over field staff. Basically field staff do not belong to the senior supervisory category and therefore the written reply places emphasis on staff of middle and junior ranks. Under the existing supervisory framework, there are chains of command. As for the timing of the review, I forgot to answer this part when I answered Mr. Wu Chi-wai's question just now. I answer the question now. I cannot give an indefinite date, but for the time being I cannot give a fixed date either. The fact is that I don't have the information with me right now, which should be prepared by the Department. I will request the Department to prepare the relevant paper as soon as possible for Members' discussion. Mr. Joseph Lai Chi-Keong (in Cantonese):-I have some more questions to follow up on the reply of the Chairman of the Select Committee. The number of misconduct cases in relation to the total strength of some 17 000 is of course very small, but it is not insignificant in relation to its own rank. I would like to ask the Chairman of the Select Committee the number of Workmen I and II being supervised by a Foreman and the number of Foremen being supervised by a Senior Foreman. I asked for these figures just now but a reply from the Chairman of the Select Committee is still awaited, MR. SUEN KAI-CHEONG (in Cantonese):-Mr. Chairman, I don't have the information now. I will ask the Department to forward the information to Mr. Joseph LAI after the meeting. Chairman (in Cantonese): - -If there are no more follow-up questions, we will go on to the next question. Would Mr. Christopher CHUNG ask his question? (2) MR. CHRISTOPHER CHUNG SHU-KUN asked (in Cantonese):—'With regard to the Council's subsidy for the Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra, I have the following questions:-- (i) For the past two years, what is the amount of the Council's subsidy for the Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra? (ii) Apart from subsidizing the Orchestra by providing direct funding, has the Council purchased its programs? If yes, what is the amount paid in each of the last two years? (iii) In what areas has the Council's direct funding for the Orchestra been spent? Page 312 of 606 Page 312 of 606 Page 212 of 606 The final output is Page 312 of 606 Page 312 of 606 Page 312 of 606 304 # PROVISIONAL URBAN COUNCIL we must view the whole thing from all perspectives. Will our review be a comprehensive one? I consider that we should look at the issue from top to bottom, from every perspective, every direction and every angle. I hope that the review can be conducted as soon as possible and will involve each and every staff-member in a top-down and bottom-to-top manner. Mr. Suen Kai-CHEONG (in Cantonese):- The reason why the reply focuses on junior staff is that the question is merely about the supervision over field staff. Basically field staff do not belong to the senior supervisory category and therefore the written reply places emphasis on staff of middle and junior ranks. Under the existing supervisory framework, there are chains of command. As for the timing of the review, I forgot to answer this part when I answered Mr. Wu Chi-wai's question just now. I answer the question now. I cannot give an indefinite date, but for the time being I cannot give a fixed date either. The fact is that I don't have the information with me right now, which should be prepared by the Department. I will request the Department to prepare the relevant paper as soon as possible for Members' discussion. Mr. Joseph Lai Chi-Keong (in Cantonese):-I have some more questions to follow up on the reply of the Chairman of the Select Committee. The number of misconduct cases in relation to the total strength of some 17 000 is of course very small, but it is not insignificant in relation to its own rank. I would like to ask the Chairman of the Select Committee the number of Workmen I and II being supervised by a Foreman and the number of Foremen being supervised by a Senior Foreman. I asked for these figures just now but a reply from the Chairman of the Select Committee is still awaited, MR. SUEN KAI-CHEONG (in Cantonese):-Mr. Chairman, I don't have the information now. I will ask the Department to forward the information to Mr. Joseph LAI after the meeting. Chairman (in Cantonese): - -If there are no more follow-up questions, we will go on to the next question. Would Mr. Christopher CHUNG ask his question? (2) MR. CHRISTOPHER CHUNG SHU-KUN asked (in Cantonese):—'With regard to the Council's subsidy for the Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra, I have the following questions:-- (i) For the past two years, what is the amount of the Council's subsidy for the Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra? (ii) Apart from subsidizing the Orchestra by providing direct funding, has the Council purchased its programs? If yes, what is the amount paid in each of the last two years? (iii) In what areas has the Council's direct funding for the Orchestra been spent? Page 312 of 606 Page 312 of 606 Page 212 of 606
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we must view the whole thing from all perspectives. Will our review be a comprehensive one? I consider that we should look at the issue from top to bottom, from every perspective, every direction and every angle. I hope that the review can be conducted as soon as possible and will involve each and every staff-member in a top-down and bottom-to-top manner.

Mr. Suen Kal-CHEONG (in Cantonese):- The reason why the reply focuses on junior staff is that the question is merely about the supervision over field staff. Basically field staff do not belong to the senior supervisory category and therefore the written reply places emphasis on staff of middle and junior ranks. Under the existing supervisory framework, there are chains of command.

As for the timing of the review, I forgot to answer this part when I answered Mr. Wu Chi-wai's question just now. I answer the question now. I cannot give an indefinite date, but for the time being I cannot give a fixed date either. The fact is that I don't have the information with me right now, which should be prepared by the Department. I will request the Department to prepare the relevant paper as soon as possible for Members' discussion.

Mr. Joseph Lai Chi-Keong (in Cantonese):-I have some more questions to follow up on the reply of the Chairman of the Select Committee. The number of misconduct cases in relation to the total strength of some 17 000 is of course very small, but it is not insignificant in relation to its own rank. I would like to ask the Chairman of the Select Committee the number of Workmen I and II being supervised by a Foreman and the number of Foremen being supervised by a Senior Foreman. I asked for these figures just now but a reply from the Chairman of the Select Committee is still awaited,

MR. SUEN KAI-CHEONG (in Cantonese):-Mr. Chairman, I don't have the information now. I will ask the Department to forward the information to Mr. Joseph LAI after the meeting.

Chairman (in Cantonese): - -If there are no more follow-up questions, we will go on to the next question. Would Mr. Christopher CHUNG ask his question?

(2) MR. CHRIStopher Chung SHU-KUN asked (in Cantonese):—'With regard to the Council's subsidy for the Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra, I have the following questions:--

(i) For the past two years, what is the amount of the Council's subsidy for the

Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra?

(ii) Apart from subsidizing the Orchestra by providing direct funding, has the Council purchased its programs? If yes, what is the amount paid in each of the last two years?

(iii) In what areas has the Council's direct funding for the Orchestra been

spent?

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