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everyone could see why. This kind of consultation is false consultation. On the issue of the ground for dissolving the councils, government put the blame on the Councils. It is government's irresponsible, lame argument to shift responsibility for the avian flu and other totally unrelated incidents on the two Municipal Councils. The end result of dissolving the Councils is taking back of powers. It means less chance of public participation and the power of decision shifted from elected councils to officials who do not have to be accountable for their actions. There will be less overall transparency. In fact, the result of dissolving the two Councils will further boost administrative dictatorship. Let me specifically point out that the original and amendment motions do not differ in concept. To come to a concerted view and for overall good, the Democratic Party not only supports the amendment motion, I have even canvassed support for the amendment motion.

I hope fellow colleagues, including those who support dissolution and those who support merging of the two Municipal Councils, can consider this motion as a whole. The spirit of both motions pinpoints the entire consultation process and government's attempt to shift responsibilities. It does not in any way go against your concepts. I hope all of you will support the amendment motion. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):—The mover of the original motion has exercised his right of reply. According to the Standing Orders, we vote first of all on the amendment motion by Mr. Joseph CHAN first. If it is carried, there will be no need to vote on the original motion by Mr. CHAN Kwok-leung. If it is voted down, we proceed to vote on the original motion.

We now vote on the computer system. Please indicate your choices.

The question was put to the vote.

In accordance with Section 21(12A) of the Standing Orders, the amendment motion by Mr. Joseph Chan Yuck-sut was carried with 16 votes for, 5 against and 1 in abstention.

(See Annex II for record of voting on the amendment motion by Mr. Joseph CHAN Yuek-sul.)

CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):—I announce here that the amendment motion was carried with 16 votes for, 5 against and 1 in abstention.

The meeting is now adjourned. The next meeting will be held on 8 December 1999 (Tuesday) at 2.30 p.m. Thank you.

Adjournment—4.28 p.m.

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PROVISIONAL URBAN COUNCIL 295 everyone could see why. This kind of consultation is false consultation. On the issue of the ground for dissolving the councils, government put the blame on the Councils. It is government's irresponsible, lame argument to shift responsibility for the avian flu and other totally unrelated incidents on the two Municipal Councils. The end result of dissolving the Councils is taking back of powers. It means less chance of public participation and the power of decision shifted from elected councils to officials who do not have to be accountable for their actions. There will be less overall transparency. In fact, the result of dissolving the two Councils will further boost administrative dictatorship. Let me specifically point out that the original and amendment motions do not differ in concept. To come to a concerted view and for overall good, the Democratic Party not only supports the amendment motion, I have even canvassed support for the amendment motion. I hope fellow colleagues, including those who support dissolution and those who support merging of the two Municipal Councils, can consider this motion as a whole. The spirit of both motions pinpoints the entire consultation process and government's attempt to shift responsibilities. It does not in any way go against your concepts. I hope all of you will support the amendment motion. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):—The mover of the original motion has exercised his right of reply. According to the Standing Orders, we vote first of all on the amendment motion by Mr. Joseph CHAN first. If it is carried, there will be no need to vote on the original motion by Mr. CHAN Kwok-leung. If it is voted down, we proceed to vote on the original motion. We now vote on the computer system. Please indicate your choices. The question was put to the vote. In accordance with Section 21(12A) of the Standing Orders, the amendment motion by Mr. Joseph Chan Yuck-sut was carried with 16 votes for, 5 against and 1 in abstention. (See Annex II for record of voting on the amendment motion by Mr. Joseph CHAN Yuek-sul.) CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):—I announce here that the amendment motion was carried with 16 votes for, 5 against and 1 in abstention. The meeting is now adjourned. The next meeting will be held on 8 December 1999 (Tuesday) at 2.30 p.m. Thank you. Adjournment—4.28 p.m. Page 301 of 606 Page 301 of 606 Page 301 of 6
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PROVISIONAL URBAN COUNCIL 295 everyone could see why. This kind of consultation is false consultation. On the issue of the ground for dissolving the councils, government put the blame on the Councils. It is government's irresponsible, lame argument to shift responsibility for the avian flu and other totally unrelated incidents on the two Municipal Councils. The end result of dissolving the Councils is taking back of powers. It means less chance of public participation and the power of decision shifted from elected councils to officials who do not have to be accountable for their actions. There will be less overall transparency. In fact, the result of dissolving the two Councils will further boost administrative dictatorship. Let me specifically point out that the original and amendment motions do not differ in concept. To come to a concerted view and for overall good, the Democratic Party not only supports the amendment motion, I have even canvassed support for the amendment motion. I hope fellow colleagues, including those who support dissolution and those who support merging of the two Minunicipal Councils, can consider this motion as a whole. The spirit of both motions pinpoints the entire consultation process and government's attempt to shift responsibilities. It does not in any way go against your concepts. I hope all of you will support the amendment motion. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):—The mover of the original motion has exercised his right of reply. According to the Standing Orders, we vote first of all on the amendment motion by Mr. Joseph CHAN first. If it is carried, there will be no need to vote on the original motion by Mr. CHAN Kwok-leung. If it is voted down, we proceed to vote on the original motion. We now vote on the computer system. Please indicate your choices. The question was put to the vote. In accordance with Section 21(12A) of the Standing Orders, the amendment motion by Mr. Joseph Chan Yuck-sut was carried with 16 votes for, 5 against and 1 in abstention. ((See Annex II for record of voting on the amendment motion by Mr. Joseph CHAN Yuek-sul.) (CHAIRMAN (în Cantonese):—I announce here that the amendment motion was carried with 16 votes for, 5 against and 1 in abstention. The meeting is now adjourned. The next meeting will be held on 8 December 1999 (Tuesday) at 2.30 p.m. Thank you. Adjournment-4.28 p.m. Page 301 of 606 Page 301 of 606 Page 301 of 6 A
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everyone could see why. This kind of consultation is false consultation. On the issue of the ground for dissolving the councils, government put the blame on the Councils. It is government's irresponsible, lame argument to shift responsibility for the avian flu and other totally unrelated incidents on the two Municipal Councils. The end result of dissolving the Councils is taking back of powers. It means less chance of public participation and the power of decision shifted from elected councils to officials who do not have to be accountable for their actions. There will be less overall transparency. In fact, the result of dissolving the two Councils will further boost administrative dictatorship. Let me specifically point out that the original and amendment motions do not differ in concept. To come to a concerted view and for overall good, the Democratic Party not only supports the amendment motion, I have even canvassed support for the amendment motion.

I hope fellow colleagues, including those who support dissolution and those who support merging of the two Minunicipal Councils, can consider this motion as a whole. The spirit of both motions pinpoints the entire consultation process and government's attempt to shift responsibilities. It does not in any way go against your concepts. I hope all of you will support the amendment motion. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):—The mover of the original motion has exercised his right of reply. According to the Standing Orders, we vote first of all on the amendment motion by Mr. Joseph CHAN first. If it is carried, there will be no need to vote on the original motion by Mr. CHAN Kwok-leung. If it is voted down, we proceed to vote on the original motion.

We now vote on the computer system. Please indicate your choices.

The question was put to the vote.

In accordance with Section 21(12A) of the Standing Orders, the amendment motion by Mr. Joseph Chan Yuck-sut was carried with 16 votes for, 5 against and 1 in abstention.

((See Annex II for record of voting on the amendment motion by Mr. Joseph

CHAN Yuek-sul.)

(CHAIRMAN (în Cantonese):—I announce here that the amendment motion was carried with 16 votes for, 5 against and 1 in abstention.

The meeting is now adjourned. The next meeting will be held on 8 December 1999 (Tuesday) at 2.30 p.m. Thank you.

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