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coordinate resources. For hygiene in estates, if we know which estates have more problems, we can take action through the staff of the Urban Services Department. It is practical work that we, as Urban Council Members, should do. I heard many of my colleagues referring to their dual roles, but I want to remind them that this is the monthly meeting of the Urban Council, not a discussion at a District Board meeting. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I vow e support for the original motion.
MR. ALBERT LAI Wing-lin (in Cantonese):—I would like to remind Members that your speeches seem to discriminate against private housing estates. If the motion covers public estates only, rates paid by private housing buildings are for nothing. So, if there is to be any classification, it should be taken out in all estates.
CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):—Mr. LAI, each Member has the right to speak once. You have spoken before, so you don't have the right to speak again. Sorry.
Now, will the original mover exercise his right of reply?
MR. LAI Hok-lim (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, I just want to know how much time I have. More than 10 Members spoke just now. I have to respond to them very quickly.
CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):—4 minutes, starting from now.
MR. LAI HOK-LIM (in Cantonese):—Good. First point, in response to Mr. SUEN Kai-chcong. If Mr. SUEN's theory is correct, there will be no need for a Keep Hong Kong Clean Campaign. That Campaign is not one that punishes when something is done wrong, but one to promote education and the environment. I think I have answered him.
Mr. LAM Man-fai clearly opposed everything in the original motion. Let us not forget that I did call for prosecution, but prosecution does not mean things can be handled. Like practicing martial art, you may have learnt one drill and then continue to learn another. The two are not on opposite fronts. It is just that you want to know both drills. Mr. Lam Man-fai simply made prosecution and classification opposed to each other. He made the Housing Department opposed to Members and the Estate Management Advisory Committees opposed to the Urban Council. He was wrong. There was never any conflict. One can continue to serve on the Estate Management Advisory Committees and the District Boards. What is wrong with that? Why can't we just do more?
As for Mr. Lai Wing-lin's comment, I do not grasp what he wants to say, therefore I cannot comment. Frankly, in his amended motion, Mr. CHUNG Siu-kun is saying only one thing. He says there is a responsible party and a trump card, and there should be no need for us to do anything. Just that. His amended motion carries no comment on classification. He is not against
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coordinate resources. For hygiene in estates, if we know which estates have more problems, we can take action through the staff of the Urban Services Department. It is practical work that we, as Urban Council Members, should do. I heard many of my colleagues referring to their dual roles, but I want to remind them that this is the monthly meeting of the Urban Council, not a discussion at a District Board meeting. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I vow esupport for the original motion.
MR. ALBERT Lai Wing-lin (in Cantonese):—I would like to remind Members that your speeches seem to discriminate against private housing estates. If the motion covers public estates only, rates paid by private housing buildings are ffor nothing. So, if there is to be any classification, it should be taken out in all
cestates.
CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):-Mr. LAI, each Member has the right to speak once. You have spoken before, so you don't have the right to speak again. Sorry.
Now, will the original mover exercise his right of reply?
MR. Lai HokK-LIM (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, I just want to know how much time I have. More than 10 Members spoke just now. I have to respond to them very quickly.
CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):—4 minutes, starting from now.
MR. LAI HOK-LIM (in Cantonese):-Good. First point, in response to Mr. SUEN Kai-chcong. If Mr. SUEN's theory is correct, there will be no need for a Keep Hong Kong Clean Campaign. That Campaign is not one that punishes when something is done wrong, but one to promote education and the eenvironment. I think I have answered him.
Mr. LAM Man-fai clearly opposed everything in the original motion. Let us mot forget that I did call for prosecution, but prosecution does not mean things c:an be handled. Like practicing martial art, you may have learnt one drill and then continue to learn another. The two are not on opposite fronts. It is just that you want to know both drills. Mr. Lam Man-fai simply made prosecution and classification opposed to each other. He made the Housing Department opposed to Members and the Estate Management Advisory Committees oopposed to the Urban Council. He was wrong. There was never any conflict. One can continue to serve on the Estate Management Advisory Committees and the District Boards. What is wrong with that? Why can't we just do more?
As for Mr. Lat Wing-lin's comment, I do not grasp what he wants to say. therefore I cannot comment. Frankly, in his amended motion, Mr. CHUNG Sihu-kun is saying only one thing. He says there is a responsible party and a trump card, and there should be no need for us to do anything. Just that. His a.mended motion carries no comment on classification. He is not against
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