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earlier or point out what exactly had gone wrong when the motion was first moved. You have not mentioned it so far.
And then when it was time for us to speak, you put forth a series of objections, and instead of having the guts to vote against the motion, you proposed that the motion be referred back to the Select Committee for discussion.
We, as Members of the Council, a representative body dealing with public hygiene and health, have merely proposed to request the relevant Government departments to examine the setting up of a seafood import quarantine and source registration system and formulate standards for the sale and rearing of fish. I hope members of the DAB will explain clearly to the public why the mere talk about ‘examining' should be objected to. Members may recall that a motion on reducing the rentals of all the venues managed by the Council was moved at the last monthly meeting. The motion was about examining the feasibility, just as the present one is. It was not tantamount to actual reduction of all the rentals. I hope members of the DAB will explain to the public about this.
I therefore consider that there is no need to refer the issue back to the Select Committee for further discussion. Even if the motion is carried today, the Select Committee will still be free to conduct examination on its own. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman (in Cantonese): Good. All those who wanted to speak have spoken. Let us now vote on the procedural motion moved by Mr. Ip Kwok-chung, which proposes under Standing Order 21(15)(J) to refer the original motion to the Select Committee for action.
Mr. IP Kwok-chung's procedural motion was put to the vote for the first time.
The result was 17 for, 17 against and 4 abstentions.
(The record of first voting on Mr. IP Kwok-chung's procedural motion is at Annex III)
CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese): The result of voting has placed me in a dilemma... Yes, Mr. Li Wah-ming please.
Mr. Li Wah-ming (in Cantonese): In the case of an amended motion, the experience of general representative bodies indicates that if there is a tie vote, the Chairman's casting vote will normally be against the motion. This is the practice of overseas representative bodies. In the case of an original motion, if there is a tie vote for its amended motion, the Chairman will normally vote against the amended motion out of respect for the spirit of the original motion. This practice has been adopted for years by representative bodies not only in
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earlier or point out what exactly had gone wrong when the motion was first moved. You have not mentioned it so far.
And then when it was time for us to speak, you put forth a series of objections, and instead of having the guts to vote against the motion, you proposed that the motion be referred back to the Select Committee for discussion.
We, as Members of the Council, a representative body dealing with public hygiene and health, have merely proposed to request the relevant Government departments to examine the setting up of a seafood import quarantine and source registration system and formulate standards for the sale and rearing of fish. I hope members of the DAB will explain clearly to the public why the mere talk about ‘examining' should be objected to. Members may recall that a motion on reducing the rentals of all the venues managed by the Council was moved at the last monthly meeting. The motion was about examining the feasibility, just as the present one is. It was not tantamount to actual reduction of all the rentals. I hope members of the DAB will explain to the public about this.
I therefore consider that there is no need to refer the issue back to the Select Committee for further discussion. Even if the motion is carried today, the Select Committee will still be free to conduct examination on its own. Thank you. Mr. Chairman.
Chairman (in Cantonese):-Good. All those who wanted to speak have spoken. Let us now vote on the procedural motion moved by Mr. Ip Kwok- chung, which proposes under Standing Order 21(15)(J) to refer the original motion to the Select Committee for action.
Mr. IP Kwok-chung's procedural motion was put to the vote for the first time.
The result was 17 for, 17 against and 4 abstentions.
(The record of first voting on Mr. IP Kwok-chung's procedural motion is at Annex III)
CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):--The result of voting has placed me in a dilemma... Yes, Mr. Li Wah-ming please.
Mr. Li Wah-ming (in Cantonese):—In the case of an amended motion, the experience of gencral representative bodies indicates that if there is a tie vote, the Chairman's casting vote will normally be against the motion. This is the practice of overseas representative bodies. In the case of an original motion, if there is a tie vote for its amended motion, the Chairman will normally vote against the amended motion out of respect for the spirit of the original motion. This practice has been adopted for years by representative bodies not only in
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