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is Mr. T. A. SAW who is the Deputy Director of Health. Other members including the Assistant Director of Urban Services, Mr. Po, are not females. The representative of Agriculture and Fisheries Department is not Mrs. WEI but Mr. K. K. LIU, an Assistant Director. The Working Group is considered to be a low level one not because there are too many females but because the ranking of all its members is assistant director only. We can see that the matter was worse off subsequently. Regarding the remarks made by Mr. CHAN earlier on, I would like to point out that when there is an occasional slip of tongue, we must admit it. Trying to cover up will be even worse since it will draw more attention. We always talk about the image of Urban Council. In my opinion, Members of the Council should be responsible for their words which must be factual to disclose the truth. If I say something wrong, I have to admit it and make an apology instead of covering it up afterwards. A good image cannot be built up just by bragging, nor can the image of Urban Council be upgraded by having Members attending more ceremonies as the officiating or ribbon-cutting guests. People from the media always keep an eye on our behaviour during meetings. Whether we have quarrels or speak sensibly or not, it will be covered in press columns, editorials and news sections. As this is the case, why not conduct a self-examination of our behaviour first?

Secondly, I would like to respond to the remarks of Mr. PAO who just left the meeting. I am really taken aback by his ridiculous theory. His remarks on non-politicization of political parties give people an impression that it is a bad thing to have political parties. This is based on his ridiculous rationale that the interests of people having ties with political parties will definitely go contrary to public interests. In other words, Members from political parties will only work for the benefits of their parties and in pursuit of the parties' utmost interests at the expense of public interests. I suppose Mr. PAO has not joined the Hong Kong Progressive Alliance after the dissolution of the Liberal Democratic Federation. Perhaps, Mr. Wu can clarify this point. However, Mr. PAO was once a member of the Liberal Democratic Federation which was a political party also. I do not see any problems with political parties. Does it mean that independent Members will definitely serve the public better and be able to reflect their views?

Does Mr. PAO see the many benefits of joining a political party? A political party has its own organization and disciplines. Once it is brought to our attention that a party member has made a mistake in his speech, we will encourage him to make correction or criticize him in accordance with our code of disciplines. This is a practice that cannot be expected from an independent Member. An independent Member may make boastful remarks or condemnation wildly. He may even do things that damage the image of Urban Council. I wonder who can exercise discipline on independent Members? If there is a party instead, this kind of damage can be minimized through the monitoring and control of the party's machinery. Has Mr. PAO ever thought about this? I suppose not.

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Page 441 of 654 HONG KONG PROVISIONAL URBAN COUNCIL 437 is Mr. T. A. SAW who is the Deputy Director of Health. Other members including the Assistant Director of Urban Services, Mr. Po, are not females. The representative of Agriculture and Fisheries Department is not Mrs. WEI but Mr. K. K. LIU, an Assistant Director. The Working Group is considered to be a low level one not because there are too many females but because the ranking of all its members is assistant director only. We can see that the matter was worse off subsequently. Regarding the remarks made by Mr. CHAN earlier on, I would like to point out that when there is an occasional slip of tongue, we must admit it. Trying to cover up will be even worse since it will draw more attention. We always talk about the image of Urban Council. In my opinion, Members of the Council should be responsible for their words which must be factual to disclose the truth. If I say something wrong, I have to admit it and make an apology instead of covering it up afterwards. A good image cannot be built up just by bragging, nor can the image of Urban Council be upgraded by having Members attending more ceremonies as the officiating or ribbon-cutting guests. People from the media always keep an eye on our behaviour during meetings. Whether we have quarrels or speak sensibly or not, it will be covered in press columns, editorials and news sections. As this is the case, why not conduct a self-examination of our behaviour first? Secondly, I would like to respond to the remarks of Mr. PAO who just left the meeting. I am really taken aback by his ridiculous theory. His remarks on non-politicization of political parties give people an impression that it is a bad thing to have political parties. This is based on his ridiculous rationale that the interests of people having ties with political parties will definitely go contrary to public interests. In other words, Members from political parties will only work for the benefits of their parties and in pursuit of the parties' utmost interests at the expense of public interests. I suppose Mr. PAO has not joined the Hong Kong Progressive Alliance after the dissolution of the Liberal Democratic Federation. Perhaps, Mr. Wu can clarify this point. However, Mr. PAO was once a member of the Liberal Democratic Federation which was a political party also. I do not see any problems with political parties. Does it mean that independent Members will definitely serve the public better and be able to reflect their views? Does Mr. PAO see the many benefits of joining a political party? A political party has its own organization and disciplines. Once it is brought to our attention that a party member has made a mistake in his speech, we will encourage him to make correction or criticize him in accordance with our code of disciplines. This is a practice that cannot be expected from an independent Member. An independent Member may make boastful remarks or condemnation wildly. He may even do things that damage the image of Urban Council. I wonder who can exercise discipline on independent Members? If there is a party instead, this kind of damage can be minimized through the monitoring and control of the party's machinery. Has Mr. PAO ever thought about this? I suppose not. Page 441 of 654 Page 441 of 654
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is Mr. T. A. SAW who is the Deputy Director of Health. Other members including the Assistant Director of Urban Services, Mr. Po, are not females. The representative of Agriculture and Fisheries Department is not Mrs. WEI but Mr. K. K. LIU, an Assistant Director. The Working Group is considered to be a low level one not because there are too many females but because the ranking of all its members is assistant director only. We can see that the matter was worse off subsequently. Regarding the remarks made by Mr. CHAN earlier on, I would like to point out that when there is an occasional slip of tongue, we must admit it. Trying to cover up will be even worse since it will draw more attention. We always talk about the image of Urban Council. In my opinion, Members of the Council should be responsible for their words which must be factual to disclose the truth. If I say something wrong, I have to admit it and make an apology instead of covering it up afterwards. A good image cannot be built up just by bragging, nor can the image of Urban Council be upgraded by having Members attending more ceremonies as the officiating or ribbon- cutting guests. People from the media always keep an eye on our behaviour during meetings. Whether we have quarrels or speak sensibly or not, it will be covered in press columns, editorials and news sections. As this is the case, why not conduct a self-examination to our behaviour first?

Secondly. I would like to respond to the remarks of Mr. P^o who just left the meeting. I am really taken aback by his ridiculous theory. His remarks on non-politicization of political parties give people an impression that it is a bad thing to have political parties. This is based on his ridiculous rationale that the interests of people having ties with political parties will definitely go contrary to public interests. In other words, Members from political parties will only work for the benefits of their parties and in pursuit of the parties' utmost interests at the expense of public interests. I suppose Mr. PAO has not joined the Hong Kong Progressive Alliance after the dissolution of the Liberal Democratic Federation. Perhaps, Mr. Wu can clarify this point. However, Mr. PAO was once a member of the Liberal Democratic Federation which was a political party also. I do not see any problems with political parties. Does it mean that independent Members will definitely serve the public better and be able to reflect their views?

Does Mr. PAO sec the many benefits of joining a political party? A political party has its own organization and disciplines. Once it is brought to our attention that a party member has made a mistake in his speech, we will encourage him to make correction or criticize him in accordance with our code of disciplines. This is a practice that cannot be expected from an independent Member, An independent Member may make boastful remarks or condemnation wildly. He may even do things that damage the image of Urban Council. I wonder who can exercise discipline on independent Members? If there is a party instead, this kind of damage can be minimized through the monitoring and control of the party's machinery. Has Mr. PAO ever thought about this? I suppose noi.

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