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Resistance has all along come from the Department and the Architectural Services Department, not this Council.

Mr. Chairman, if my motion is carried today, I would convey a strong message to the Department and the Architectural Services Department. I hope they can work along our decision on the policy and the direction. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman (in Cantonese):— We now put the motion to vote.

MR. DANIEL To Boon-man (in Cantonese):—I have a procedural motion. Mr. Chairman. I have a lot of doubts about this motion, but I did not have enough time to prepare. Can I ask for postponement in accordance with the Standing Orders? Can we postpone voting to the next meeting or indefinitely? Can you explain the procedure to me, Mr. Chairman?

Chairman (in Cantonese):—This is a motion on procedure. Now that Mr. To has proposed this motion, we must have a seconder and shall put this to the vote. I think this is rather late for you to raise this at this stage. We can address the general spirit of the motion. If it is all right with you, there are many more chances for discussion at meetings of Select Committees. You need to put up a motion formally for postponement and someone to second that motion before we can vote on it.

Mr. Daniel To Boon-man (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, I realize I cannot move amendments to the motion at this stage although I am worried about the wording of the motion. In any case, I support the spirit of the motion. I am worried that problems may arise at the stage of implementation, and that is why I am raising a procedural point.

Chairman (in Cantonese):—In accordance with 18(1) and (2) of the Standing Orders, we can vote on your motion first if there is a seconder.

MR. DANIEL To Boon-man (in Cantonese):—I am proposing this procedural motion in accordance with 15(B), (D) and (E) of the Standing Orders. I want to clarify things because I am worried.

CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):—For any procedural motion, there must be a seconder and then we can put this to the vote.

Let us deal with it this way, I now process your motion for postponement. Mr. To has moved a procedural motion for postponement. Is there a seconder? Sorry, Mr. To, since there is no seconder, I shall proceed to put the motion to the vote.

The question was put.

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Page 252 of 654 HONG KONG PROVISIONAL URBAN COUNCIL 251 Resistance has all along come from the Department and the Architectural Services Department, not this Council. Mr. Chairman, if my motion is carried today, I would convey a strong message to the Department and the Architectural Services Department. I hope they can work along our decision on the policy and the direction. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (in Cantonese):— We now put the motion to vote. MR. DANIEL To Boon-man (in Cantonese):—I have a procedural motion. Mr. Chairman. I have a lot of doubts about this motion, but I did not have enough time to prepare. Can I ask for postponement in accordance with the Standing Orders? Can we postpone voting to the next meeting or indefinitely? Can you explain the procedure to me, Mr. Chairman? Chairman (in Cantonese):—This is a motion on procedure. Now that Mr. To has proposed this motion, we must have a seconder and shall put this to the vote. I think this is rather late for you to raise this at this stage. We can address the general spirit of the motion. If it is all right with you, there are many more chances for discussion at meetings of Select Committees. You need to put up a motion formally for postponement and someone to second that motion before we can vote on it. Mr. Daniel To Boon-man (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, I realize I cannot move amendments to the motion at this stage although I am worried about the wording of the motion. In any case, I support the spirit of the motion. I am worried that problems may arise at the stage of implementation, and that is why I am raising a procedural point. Chairman (in Cantonese):—In accordance with 18(1) and (2) of the Standing Orders, we can vote on your motion first if there is a seconder. MR. DANIEL To Boon-man (in Cantonese):—I am proposing this procedural motion in accordance with 15(B), (D) and (E) of the Standing Orders. I want to clarify things because I am worried. CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):—For any procedural motion, there must be a seconder and then we can put this to the vote. Let us deal with it this way, I now process your motion for postponement. Mr. To has moved a procedural motion for postponement. Is there a seconder? Sorry, Mr. To, since there is no seconder, I shall proceed to put the motion to the vote. The question was put. Page 252 of 654 Page 252 of 654 Page 252 of 654
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Page 252 of 654 HONG KONG PROVISIONAL URBAN COUNCIL 251 Resistance has all along come from the Department and the Architectural Services Department, not this Council. Mr. Chairman, if my motion is carried today, I would convey a strong message to the Department and the Architectural Services Department. I hope they can work along our decision on the policy and the direction. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (in Cantonese);- We now put the motion to vote. MR. DANIEL To Boon-man (in Cantonese);—I have a procedural motion. Mr. Chairman. I have a lot of doubts about this motion, but I did not have enough time to prepare. Can I ask for postponement in accordance with the Standing 'Orders? Can we postpone voting to the next meeting or indefinitely? Can you explain the procedure to me, Mr. Chairman? IChairman (in Cantonese):—This is a motion on procedure. Now that Mr. To lhas proposed this motion, we must have a seconder and shall put this to the vote. I think this is rather late for you to raise this at this stage. We can address the general spirit of the motion. If it is all right with you, there are many more chances for discussion at meetings of Select Committees. You need to put up a motion formally for postponement and someone to second that motion before we can vote on it. IMr. Daniel To Boon-man (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, I realize I cannot move amendments to the motion at this stage although I am worried about the wording of the motion. In any case, I support the spirit of the motion. I am worried that problems may arise at the stage of implementation, and that is why I am raising a procedural point. Chairman (in Cantonese):—In accordance with 18(1) and (2) of the Standing Orders, we can vote on your motion first if there is a seconder. MMR. DANIEL To Boon-man ( in Cantonese):—I am proposing this procedural motion in accordance with 15(B), (D) and (E) of the Standing Orders. I want tto clarify things because I am worried. CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):-For any procedural motion, there must be a seconder and then we can put this to the vote. Let us deal with it this way, I now process your motion for postponement. Mr. To has moved a procedural motion for postponement. Is there a seconder? Sorry, Mr. To, since there is no seconder, I shall proceed to put the motion to the vote. The question was put. Page 252 of 654 Page 252 of 654 Page 252 of 654
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Resistance has all along come from the Department and the Architectural Services Department, not this Council.

Mr. Chairman, if my motion is carried today, I would convey a strong message to the Department and the Architectural Services Department. I hope they can work along our decision on the policy and the direction. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman (in Cantonese);- We now put the motion to vote.

MR. DANIEL To Boon-man (in Cantonese);—I have a procedural motion. Mr. Chairman. I have a lot of doubts about this motion, but I did not have enough time to prepare. Can I ask for postponement in accordance with the Standing 'Orders? Can we postpone voting to the next meeting or indefinitely? Can you

explain the procedure to me, Mr. Chairman?

IChairman (in Cantonese):—This is a motion on procedure. Now that Mr. To lhas proposed this motion, we must have a seconder and shall put this to the vote. I think this is rather late for you to raise this at this stage. We can address the general spirit of the motion. If it is all right with you, there are many more chances for discussion at meetings of Select Committees. You need to put up a motion formally for postponement and someone to second that motion before we can vote on it.

IMr. Daniel To Boon-man (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, I realize I cannot move amendments to the motion at this stage although I am worried about the wording of the motion. In any case, I support the spirit of the motion. I am worried that problems may arise at the stage of implementation, and that is why I am raising a procedural point.

Chairman (in Cantonese):—In accordance with 18(1) and (2) of the Standing Orders, we can vote on your motion first if there is a seconder.

MMR. DANIEL To Boon-man ( in Cantonese):—I am proposing this procedural motion in accordance with 15(B), (D) and (E) of the Standing Orders. I want tto clarify things because I am worried.

CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):-For any procedural motion, there must be a seconder and then we can put this to the vote.

Let us deal with it this way, I now process your motion for postponement. Mr. To has moved a procedural motion for postponement. Is there a seconder? Sorry, Mr. To, since there is no seconder, I shall proceed to put the motion to

the vote.

The question was put.

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