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adjustments have been made. This is an example of approval in principle and making adjustments later on. The adjustments require discussions within relevant Select Committees. So, I think certain Members may have worried too much. I am sorry that my motion has been interpreted as one that makes use of the Council to put pressure on or even shut off some organizations.
Let me stress again that this is my motion and I seek acceptance by the Council. I do not see that the Council is already proceeding headlong. I feel that Hong Kong is the home of Hong Kong people and we have our own views. Even if my motion is carried, it deals with celebration activities only. It does not seek to pinpoint anyone. I do not think saying more or making further clarifications is necessary. Those who oppose the motion will stand by their opinions and those who support it too will stand by their decision. I do not want to go on any further. I just hope supporters of the motion will stand by their decision.
CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese): We will now put the motion to vote. Those who support Mr. JP's motion, please raise their hands............
MR. CHAN KWOK-LEUNG (in Cantonese): Mr. Chairman, I am not asking to speak on the motion. I just want to speak about the procedure.
Mr. Chairman, a Member asked that we should declare interests. I hope you will let us do so because it involves the Association for the Celebration of the Return of Hong Kong and many of us here are members of that Association. I think it is all right to declare interests in this respect, unless Members are afraid. Mr. Chairman, I urge you to ask Members to declare whether they are members of the Association.
CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese): According to Standing Orders, on matters dealing with policy, there is no need to declare interests. So I do not think there is need to do so. Let us put the motion to vote.
Declaring interests will not make any difference. Members may have different opinions and everyone enjoys the right to speak. Members can vote freely. Even if we have declared interests, it does not mean we cannot vote. I think this is fair. So, let us vote.
The question was put.
The motion was carried with 18 votes in favour, 13 against.
(See annex B for the record on votes on Mr. Ip Kwok-chung's motion.)
CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese): Today's meeting is adjourned. The next meeting will be held at 2.30 p.m. on 8 April 1997 (Tuesday). Thank you.
Adjournment - 4.47 p.m.
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adjustments have been made. This is an example of approval in principle and making adjustments later on. The adjustments require discussions within relevant Select Committees. So, I think certain Members may have worried too much. I am sorry that my motion has been interpreted as one that makes use of the Council to put pressure on or even shut off some organizations.
Let me stress again that this is my motion and I seek acceptance by the Council. I do not see that the Council is already proceeding headlong. I feel that Hong Kong is the home of Hong Kong people and we have our own views. Even if my motion is carried, it deals with celebration activities only. It does not seek to pinpoint anyone. I do not think saying more or making further clarifications is necessary. Those who oppose the motion will stand by their opinions and those who support it too will stand by their decision. I do not want to go on any further. I just hope supporters of the motion will stand by their decision.
CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):-We will now put the motion to vote. Those who support Mr. JP's motion, please raise their hands............
MR. CHAN KWOK-LEUNG (in Cantonese):-Mr. Chairman, I am not asking to speak on the motion. I just want to speak about the procedure.
Mr. Chairman, a Member asked that we should declare interests. I hope you will let us do so because it involves the Association for the Celebration of the Return of Hong Kong and many of us here are members of that Association. I think it is all right to declare interests in this respect, unless Members are afraid. Mr. Chairman, I urge you to ask Members to declare whether they are members of the Association.
CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):-According to Standing Orders, on matters dealing with policy, there is no need to declare interests. So I do not think there is need to do so. Let us put the motion to vote.
Declaring interests will not make any difference. Members may have different opinions and everyone enjoys the right to speak. Members can vote freely. Even if we have declared interests, it does not mean we cannot vote. I think this is fair. So, let us vote.
The question was put.
The motion was carried with 18 votes in favour, 13 against.
(See annex B for the record on votes on Mr. Ip Kwok-chung's motion.)
CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):-Today's meeting is adjourned. The next meeting will be held at 2.30 p.m. on 8 April 1997 (Tuesday). Thank you.
Adjournment-4.47 p.m.
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