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Urban Council Proceedings 市政局議事錄 All AI Reviewed

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HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

Mr. Chairman, these are my remarks.

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Chairman (in Cantonese):--Mr. Chan Choi-hi is out of town and he has asked Mr. Mox Ying-fan to speak on his behalf.

Mr. Lee Kwok-Keung (in Cantonese):—If a Councillor could not attend a meeting, could he find a representative?

Chairman (in Cantonese):--There is no precedent for this. But a Councillor may have his speech recorded in the record of proceedings if he so requests. This has happened in the past when some Councillors did not have sufficient time to deliver their long speeches, and their speeches were recorded in the record of proceedings.

THE HON. SZE To Wah (in Cantonese);—I would like to provide a reference, which is, the Legislative Council does not have such arrangements. If a Councillor does not attend a meeting, his speech could neither be read by another person nor be recorded in the record of proceedings.

MR. SAN STEPHEN WONG HON-CHING (in Cantonese):-Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You just mentioned that there was no precedent for this in the Council. In such case, we should check the Standing Orders to see if this is allowed. If this is not allowed, then we should not do so. Otherwise, I think we could do this. The question lies in whether it is provided in the Standing Orders.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Joseph Chan Yuek-sut (in Cantonese):—Do the Standing Orders forbid this? If no, then we could do it.

Chairman (in Cantonese):—Without any provisions that forbid this does not mean that this can be done. We have to be fair on this. As far as I could remember, the Standing Orders have not forbidden this. However, we should check the Standing Orders in detail to find out a definite answer. In order to save time, let's shelf this issue for the moment. Next, we have Mr. Chan Noi-yue to speak. Before the end of this meeting, I will give you a verdict on this issue.

Mr. Albert Lai Wing-lin (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, we are all lucky enough to live in a community ruled by law. The various departments of the Hong Kong Government deal with all major or minor matters according to law. Although some people doubt whether the laws of Hong Kong are reasonable, outdated and unfair to some members of the community, while others question whether some people have made use of the loopholes of the laws to cover their despicable acts or have penalized others by exploiting the

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Page 315 of 498 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL Mr. Chairman, these are my remarks. 357 Chairman (in Cantonese):--Mr. Chan Choi-hi is out of town and he has asked Mr. Mox Ying-fan to speak on his behalf. Mr. Lee Kwok-Keung (in Cantonese):—If a Councillor could not attend a meeting, could he find a representative? Chairman (in Cantonese):--There is no precedent for this. But a Councillor may have his speech recorded in the record of proceedings if he so requests. This has happened in the past when some Councillors did not have sufficient time to deliver their long speeches, and their speeches were recorded in the record of proceedings. THE HON. SZE To Wah (in Cantonese);—I would like to provide a reference, which is, the Legislative Council does not have such arrangements. If a Councillor does not attend a meeting, his speech could neither be read by another person nor be recorded in the record of proceedings. MR. SAN STEPHEN WONG HON-CHING (in Cantonese):-Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You just mentioned that there was no precedent for this in the Council. In such case, we should check the Standing Orders to see if this is allowed. If this is not allowed, then we should not do so. Otherwise, I think we could do this. The question lies in whether it is provided in the Standing Orders. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Joseph Chan Yuek-sut (in Cantonese):—Do the Standing Orders forbid this? If no, then we could do it. Chairman (in Cantonese):—Without any provisions that forbid this does not mean that this can be done. We have to be fair on this. As far as I could remember, the Standing Orders have not forbidden this. However, we should check the Standing Orders in detail to find out a definite answer. In order to save time, let's shelf this issue for the moment. Next, we have Mr. Chan Noi-yue to speak. Before the end of this meeting, I will give you a verdict on this issue. Mr. Albert Lai Wing-lin (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, we are all lucky enough to live in a community ruled by law. The various departments of the Hong Kong Government deal with all major or minor matters according to law. Although some people doubt whether the laws of Hong Kong are reasonable, outdated and unfair to some members of the community, while others question whether some people have made use of the loopholes of the laws to cover their despicable acts or have penalized others by exploiting the Page 315 of 498 Page 315 of 498 Page 315 of 498 Page 315 Page 316
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HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

Mr. Chairman, these are my remarks.

357

Cilairman (in Cantonese):--Mr. Chan Choi-hi is out of town and he has asked Mr. Mox Ying-fan to speak on his behalf.

Mr. Lee Kwok-Keung (in Cantonese):—If a Councillor could not attend a meeting, could he find a representative?

Chairman (in Cantonese):--There is no precedent for this. But a Councillor may have his speech recorded in the record of proceedings if he so requests. This has happened in the past when some Councillors did not have sufficient time to deliver their long speeches, and their speeches were recorded in the record of proceedings.

THE HON, SZETo Wah (in Cantonese);—I would like to provide a reference, which is, the Legislative Council does not have such arrangements. If a Councillor does not attend a meeting, his speech could neither be read by another person nor be recorded in the record of proceedings.

MR. SAN STEPHEN WONG HON-CHING (in Cantonese):-Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You just mentioned that there was no precedent for this in the Council. In such case, we should check the Standing Orders to see if this is allowed. If this is not allowed, then we should not do so. Otherwise, I think we could do this. The question lies in whether it is provided in the Standing Orders.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Joseph Chan Yuek-sut (in Cantonese):—Do the Standing Orders forbid this? If no, then we could do it.

Chairman (in Cantonese):—Without any provisions that forbid this does not mean that this can be done. We have to be fair on this. As far as I could remember, the Standing Orders have not forbidden this. However, we should check the Standing Orders in detail to find out a definite answer. In order to save time, let's shelf this issue for the moment. Next, we have Mr. Chan Noi- yue to speak. Before the end of this meeting, I will give you a verdict on this issue.

Mr. Albert Lai Wing-lin (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, we are all lucky enough to live in a community ruled by law. The various departments of the Hong Kong Government deal with all major or minor matters according to law. Although some people doubt whether the laws of Hong Kong are reasonable, outdated and unfair to some members of the community, while others question whether some people have made use of the loopholes of the laws to cover their despicable acts or have penalized others by exploiting the

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