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industrial and commercial people should respond immediately and be accountable to the general public for the future of Hong Kong. I think the whole procedure of election should be systematic so that in future a mature electoral system can be in existence to create a better political culture for Hong Kong. The Hong Kong Government should be more open-minded than at present and let the public know as much as possible, appoint more people from all walks of life to join the consultative committees so that they can take part in this political game and consider that participation is meaningful. Finally, I also hope that the present Legislative Councillors, in particular the senior Legislative Councillors should start to stand for elections and abandon their appointments by the Government. Under this circumstance, with the participation of common people and the publicity stepped up by the press, I hope next year will be a most important year and will be the year for our representative government to succeed.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

DR. THE HONOURABLE ELSIE TU (in English):—Mr. Chairman, I would like to thank our colleagues who have expressed their views this afternoon. After Hong Kong has been deprived of democratic representation for one and a half centuries, I think before we take this first step, we have to consider very carefully how we are going to do it and what is the best way for Hong Kong to go and how we are going to take the first step. Some of our colleagues seem to think we should have smaller constituencies and some think we should have medium sized. I am inclined to agree with those who think the constituency should be of medium size so we can expand our vision. We don't want to become district boards, we don't want to be just a municipal council. If we enter the Legislative Council, we must get a wider vision than just the narrow view of our own constituency. I think it is very important to keep this in mind. I think also we need to consider how we can educate the public on democracy, particularly young people because they haven't had any experience in democracy and they will be the ones in whose hands democracy will be in the future. I think we need to teach them that we need a government with checks and balances and democracy is not just a goddess that is going to perform a miracle. I am afraid the young people are growing up with the idea that once we get this goddess in place in Hong Kong, all our problems will be solved. They are not going to be solved, they may just be the beginning. We can see in Europe, how the beginning of democracy is rather chaotic and we have to be careful that we make very firm and careful steps towards a non-chaotic system. I think we must try to understand that democracy is not the magic to resolve all those problems. We have to study its possibility before we start. Again, I would like to thank my colleagues for their viewpoints.

CHAIRMAN (in English):—Mr. C. K. CHAN, do you wish to exercise your right of reply?

MR. PETER C. K. CHAN (in English):—Sir, I do not intend to exercise my right of reply under Standing Order 21(17).

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The motion was carried unanimously.

ADJOURNMENT—3.48 p.m.

CHAIRMAN (in English):—That concludes the business of today's meeting. The Council stands adjourned until Tuesday, 10 April 1990 at 2.30 p.m.

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316 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL industrial and commercial people should respond immediately and be accountable to the general public for the future of Hong Kong. I think the whole procedure of election should be systematic so that in future a mature electoral system can be in existence to create a better political culture for Hong Kong. The Hong Kong Government should be more open-minded than at present and let the public know as much as possible, appoint more people from all walks of life to join the consultative committees so that they can take part in this political game and consider that participation is meaningful. Finally, I also hope that the present Legislative Councillors, in particular the senior Legislative Councillors should start to stand for elections and abandon their appointments by the Government. Under this circumstance, with the participation of common people and the publicity stepped up by the press, I hope next year will be a most important year and will be the year for our representative government to succeed. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. DR. THE HONOURABLE ELSIE TU (in English):—Mr. Chairman, I would like to thank our colleagues who have expressed their views this afternoon. After Hong Kong has been deprived of democratic representation for one and a half centuries, I think before we take this first step, we have to consider very carefully how we are going to do it and what is the best way for Hong Kong to go and how we are going to take the first step. Some of our colleagues seem to think we should have smaller constituencies and some think we should have medium sized. I am inclined to agree with those who think the constituency should be of medium size so we can expand our vision. We don't want to become district boards, we don't want to be just a municipal council. If we enter the Legislative Council, we must get a wider vision than just the narrow view of our own constituency. I think it is very important to keep this in mind. I think also we need to consider how we can educate the public on democracy, particularly young people because they haven't had any experience in democracy and they will be the ones in whose hands democracy will be in the future. I think we need to teach them that we need a government with checks and balances and democracy is not just a goddess that is going to perform a miracle. I am afraid the young people are growing up with the idea that once we get this goddess in place in Hong Kong, all our problems will be solved. They are not going to be solved, they may just be the beginning. We can see in Europe, how the beginning of democracy is rather chaotic and we have to be careful that we make very firm and careful steps towards a non-chaotic system. I think we must try to understand that democracy is not the magic to resolve all those problems. We have to study its possibility before we start. Again, I would like to thank my colleagues for their viewpoints. CHAIRMAN (in English):—Mr. C. K. CHAN, do you wish to exercise your right of reply? MR. PETER C. K. CHAN (in English):—Sir, I do not intend to exercise my right of reply under Standing Order 21(17). PRINTED AND PUBLISHED BY THE GOVERNMENT PRINTER, HONG KONG Page 165 Page 166 Page 166 of 16 Pag 317 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL The motion was carried unanimously. ADJOURNMENT—3.48 p.m. CHAIRMAN (in English):—That concludes the business of today's meeting. The Council stands adjourned until Tuesday, 10 April 1990 at 2.30 p.m.
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316 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL industrial and commercial people should respond immediately and be The question was put. accountable to the general public for the future of Hong Kong. I think the HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 317 whole procedure of election should be systematic so that in future a mature The motion was carried unanimously. electoral system can be in existence to create a better political culture for Hong Kong. The Hong Kong Government should be more open-minded than at ADJOURNMENT—3.48 p.m. present and let the public know as much as possible, appoint more people from all walks of life to join the consultative committees so that they can take part in CHAIRMAN (in English):—That concludes the business of today's meeting. The this political game and consider that participation is meaningful. Finally, I also Council stands adjourned until Tuesday, 10 April 1990 at 2.30 p.m. hope that the present Legislative Councillors, in particular the senior Legislative Councillors should start to stand for elections and abandon their appointments by the Government. Under this circumstance, with the participation of common people and the publicity stepped up by the press, I hope next year will be a most important year and will be the year for our representative government to succeed. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. DR. THE HONOURABLE ELSIE TU (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I would like to thank our colleagues who have expressed their views in this afternoon. After Hong Kong has been deprived of democratic representation for one and a half, centuries, I think before we take this first step, we have to consider very carefully how we are going to do it and what is the best way for Hong Kong to go and how we are going to take the first step. Some of our colleagues seem to think we should have smaller constituencies and some think we should have medium sized. I am inclined to agree with those who think the constituency should be of medium size so we can expand our vision. We don't want to become district boards, we don't want to be just a municipal council. If we enter the Legislative Council, we must get a wider vision than just the narrow view of our own constituency. I think it is very important to keep this in mind. I think also we need to consider how we can educate the public on democracy, particularly young people because they haven't had any experience in democracy and they will be the ones in whose hands democracy will be in the future. I think we need to teach them that we need a government with checks and balances and democracy is not just a goddess that is going to perform a miracle. I am afraid the young people are growing up with the idea that once we get this goddess in place in Hong Kong, all our problems will be solved. They are not going to be solved, they may just be the beginning. We can see in Europe, how the beginning of democracy is rather chaotic and we have to be careful that we make very firm and careful steps towards a non-chaotic system. I think we must try to understand that democracy is not the magic to resolve all those problems. We have to study its possibility before we start. Again, I would like to thank my colleagues for their view points. CHAIRMAN (in English):-Mr. C. K. CHAN, do you wish to exercise your right of reply? MR. PETER C. K. CHAN (in English):-Sir, I do not intend to exercise my right of reply under Standing Order 21(17). PRINTED AND PUBLISHED BY THE GOVERNMENT PRINTER, HONG KONG 1 Page 165Page 166 Page 166 of 16 Pag
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whole procedure of election should be systematic so that in future a mature The motion was carried unanimously. electoral system can be in existence to create a better political culture for Hong

Kong. The Hong Kong Government should be more open-minded than at ADJOURNMENT—3.48 p.m.

present and let the public know as much as possible, appoint more people from

all walks of life to join the consultative committees so that they can take part in CHAIRMAN (in English):—That concludes the business of today's meeting. The this political game and consider that participation is meaningful. Finally, I also Council stands adjourned until Tuesday, 10 April 1990 at 2.30 p.m.

hope that the present Legislative Councillors, in particular the senior Legislative Councillors should start to stand for elections and abandon their appointments by the Government. Under this circumstance, with the participation of common people and the publicity stepped up by the press, I hope next year will be a most important year and will be the year for our representative government to succeed.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

DR. THE HONOURABLE ELSIE TU (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I would like to thank our colleagues who have expressed their views in this afternoon. After Hong Kong has been deprived of democratic representation for one and a half, centuries, I think before we take this first step, we have to consider very carefully how we are going to do it and what is the best way for Hong Kong to go and how we are going to take the first step. Some of our colleagues seem to think we should have smaller constituencies and some think we should have medium sized. I am inclined to agree with those who think the constituency should be of medium size so we can expand our vision. We don't want to become district boards, we don't want to be just a municipal council. If we enter the Legislative Council, we must get a wider vision than just the narrow view of our own constituency. I think it is very important to keep this in mind. I think also we need to consider how we can educate the public on democracy, particularly young people because they haven't had any experience in democracy and they will be the ones in whose hands democracy will be in the future. I think we need to teach them that we need a government with checks and balances and democracy is not just a goddess that is going to perform a miracle. I am afraid the young people are growing up with the idea that once we get this goddess in place in Hong Kong, all our problems will be solved. They are not going to be solved, they may just be the beginning. We can see in Europe, how the beginning of democracy is rather chaotic and we have to be careful that we make very firm and careful steps towards a non-chaotic system. I think we must try to understand that democracy is not the magic to resolve all those problems. We have to study its possibility before we start. Again, I would like to thank my colleagues for their view points.

CHAIRMAN (in English):-Mr. C. K. CHAN, do you wish to exercise your right of reply?

MR. PETER C. K. CHAN (in English):-Sir, I do not intend to exercise my right of reply under Standing Order 21(17).

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