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of timing, there is a case and indeed it would facilitate the executive consistency in operating our policy.

With these words, I oppose the motion as it stands.

MR. PETER C. K. CHAN (in English): Mr. Chairman, I rise to move an amendment to the motion by deleting all the words between 'not' and 'sponsor- ship' and then substitute the words 'deviate from Government's overall policy guideline regarding tobacco advertising in the' and then delete the final three words 'by tobacco companies' and in the amended form, it will read like this "THAT this Council will not deviate from Government's overall policy guide- line regarding tobacco advertising in the sponsorship of Urban Council events'.

Mr. Chairman, members of the Urban Council have listened to their colleagues. They have spoken their minds. And we had done this during the various Select Committee meetings and the Standing Committee of the Whole Council and our view differs in degree and I would say that this matter will be reviewed from time to time. I would even limit to six months' time but for the time being, we should abide by the policy that we have already agreed not too long ago and then review it at any time that we think fit. Of course, Mr. SULKE and Dr. LEUNG will be limited by Standing Orders not to bring up the subject within six months. That is the situation. But I think the Committee, if we feel that there is something new, we should revise a particular event, then we can still follow the policy and interpret it more rigidly or liberally. In this situation, it should be interpreted more rigidly but that give us the image of being a very consistent body and by giving the departmental executives a very positive and consistent policy to follow instead of just not too long, I think is about two or three weeks ago, we have a policy, and they are executing policy, but today we have a motion and ten deviating from the policy which is following the government's overall policy guidelines. I hope my amendment that would be seconded and carried will give that image. I share most of my colleagues' view that we think that Mr. SULKE is well meaning and Dr. LEUNG is always concerned with the health of every citizen in Hong Kong, both smoker or non-smoker. Of course. I would take a copy of his speech and read it more carefully from tine to time and then take some good advice from both my colleagues who are so concerned with the public's well being and privately they are very concerned with my personal well being.

Mr. Chairman, I beg to move for this amendment.

MR. STEPHEN M. L. LAU (in English):—Mr. Chairman, I second the amendment.

CHAIRMAN (in English):-The amendment has been proposed and seconded. Well now the drill is as this is the first of such activity during my period in the chair, I stand to be corrected by the Secretary. A vote is eventually taken on this amendment motion after everybody who wishes to speak on the amended motion has done so. Of course, this does not include the seconder of the original

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motion but it doesn't include the proposer of the original motion. Other people can speak on the amended motion if they wish. First of all, does any other member who wish to speak on the amended motion? We read out the amended motion for you.

SECRETARY (in English):-Mr. Chairman, the amended motion is as follows "This Council will not deviate from Government's overall policy guidelines regarding tobacco advertising in the sponsorship of Urban Council events'.

MR. PETER C. K. CHAN (in English):—Mr. Chairman, this is an amendment. Anybody can speak in favour of the amendment or against the amendment after all the speeches have gone through and we can vote on the amendment. If it is carried and then it becomes an amended motion and then we can vote on the amended motion. If it is defeated, the original motion will stand. If it is not defeated, it becomes the final motion before Council and then we vote. Subject to the final advice of the Secretary, that is my feeling of the Standing Orders.

MISS VICTORIA Y. CHAN (in English):—Mr. Chairman, Peter in the amended form said 'the Central Government guidelines', perhaps he could clarify what are the guidelines, is there a copy of that book?

DR. RONALD D. B. LEUNG (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I was going to ask the same question. I would like Mr. Peter CHAN to clearly define 'the Central Government guidelines' at its existing form, which chapter and which section to quote?

MR. PETER C. K. CHAN (in English):-Mr. Chairman, just a clarification. After the lunch, I was looking for assistance from the VCUC because the department did advise us and the VCUC always keeps every record at hand. Probably, the department's record in the minutes of the Standing Committee of the Whole Council would be useful on the subject.

MR. WALTER M. SULKE (in English):—Mr. Chairman, we are talking about the Central Government's guidelines and not the Urban Council's Guidelines.

MR. LO KING-MAN (in English): Mr. Chairman, the question raised by Vicky and Dr. LEUNG clearly shows how stupid this original motion should be put to the Council at this time only three months' after the Whole Council has debated and voted on the issue. On that occasion, the Whole Council had before it a whole set of paper including a memo setting out these guidelines and every member of the Council in that September meeting had taken reference of those guidelines and then with open eyes, we cast that vote. I must emphasize that purely in those terms as 'support the tobacco industry' this is perfectly all right as a proposal but the gist of my proposition now is that I fully support the proposed amendment on the grounds that we had been fully made aware of the guidelines at that time.