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‘RESOLVED that the Public Swimming Pools (Amendment) By-laws 19 DR. PHILIP Kwok (in English):--Well, I think we are only talking about be made under section 42 of the Public Health and Urban Servi covering the 30 per cent of the operating cost, and we are not talking about capital cost and depreciation. If we follow the logic of my colleague Mr. Sulke,
Ordinance, Cap. 132.'
He said (in English):-Mr. Chairman, As Chairman of the Recreation Sele Committee, I rise to move the motion standing in my name:--
'RESOLVED that the Public Swimming Pools (Amendment) By-laws 19 be made under section 42 of the Public Health and Urban Servic Ordinance, Cap. 132.'
we should abolish the fees altogether.
age limit.
MR. JOSEPH CHAN (in Cantonese):-Mr. Chairman, I hope that in future when we are to set new rates for admission to swimming pools we must consider the of the child, we must not set it at 14, we can consider a higher age
MRS. ELLIOTT (in English):--Mr. Chairman, that I am going to support the and hire charges for use of public swimming pools and change the basis
The purpose of the amendment to the By-laws is to raise the admission motion, but may I ask the committee to consider the age being raised to 15? charge for use of the gymnasium facilities being provided at Morrison Swimming Pool. The present hire charges were last revised in 1984 whereast admission fees were last revised in 1982. Even with the revised fees, the level subsidy for swimming pools will be in the region of 70 per cent.
Sir, I beg to move.
MRS. MARGARET LI, VICE-CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION SELECT COMMITTE seconded (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I second the motion.
MR. SULKE (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I have made the points already int committee, I want to repeat them. First of all, that we are talking about a ve small amount in relation to our budget. Secondly, we are certainly going to str some people from going to swimming pools. Mr. Peter CHAN had made a poi if you take 3 kids, you are paying $3 extra plus another dollar for yourse Lastly, I think that it should be quite feasible and not take 6 months for t department to work out where to save $3m, so that this raise in fees completely unnecessary, I cannot support the motion.
MR. PETER CHAN (in Cantonese):-Mr. Chairman, as I said sometimes it willh more expensive to bring children to the swimming pool and I do not think t cost is really too exorbitant. However, when the time comes around for the m review, I hope that appreciation could be taken of the parents who have to wai their children to swim. I support the motion but I really want to bring that up: something, that one should consider when the next review comes around support it basically.
MR. FREDERICK FUNG (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, I will be abstainin because I think the two classifications are problematic. I hope that when charge fees we should base our charges on the financial means of the peop using the swimming pools. As far as children are concerned, say secondar school children, they have no economic income and they should be under second category.
The question was put.
The motion was carried with 27 votes for, 1 against and 1 abstention. (The Chairman did not vote.)
4. MR. L. H. KWAN moved the following motion:—
RESOLVED that an application for liquor licence should be referred to the District Board concerned, instead of the City and New Territories Administration's District Officer for comments if consultation of public opinion is necessary in the process of the application.'
He said (in Cantonese):-The purpose of the motion is to improve on the Council's policy on liquor licensing the major aims of which, as described in item 2(c) of the policy, are ‘in so far as possible, to protect the public interest when granting liquor licences'. Item 3(4) of the policy rulings states:
All applications for new issue of liquor licences will be referred to the Commissioner of Police and the City District Officer concerned for comments. Public opinion will also be sought through advertisements published in the Government Gazette (in respect of liquor licences) or in two newspapers on different dates (in respect of club liquor licences) at the expense of the applicants.'
Recently; at the public hearings dealing with applications for liquor licences for the City Gardens, North Point, and Tak Shing Street, Yaumati, public reaction was very enthusiastic, and District Board members too were present to reflect the views of the local community. It is all to the good, and shows that the public do participate in the work of the Council and express their views.
Under the present practice, applications for liquor licences are referred to the District Officers concerned for comments. The District Officer will send out questionnaires to residents of the buildings involved and to the neighbourhood for their views. He also consults the corporate owners of the buildings or the mutual aid committees, and then presents to the Council the public views so collected together with his own recommendation, objection or qualifications.
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‘RESOLVED that the Public Swimming Pools (Amendment) By-laws 19 DR. PHILIP Kwok (in English):--Well, I think we are only talking about be made under section 42 of the Public Health and Urban Servi covering the 30 per cent of the operating cost, and we are not talking about capital cost and depreciation. If we follow the logic of my colleague Mr. Sulke,
Ordinance, Cap. 132.'
He said (in English):-Mr. Chairman, As Chairman of the Recreation Sele
Committee, I rise to move the motion standing in my name:--
'RESOLVED that the Public Swimming Pools (Amendment) By-laws 19 be made under section 42 of the Public Health and Urban Servic
Ordinance, Cap. 132.'
we should abolish the fees altogether.
age
limit.
MR. JOSEPH CHAN (in Cantonese):-Mr. Chairman, I hope that in future when we are to set new rates for admission to swimming pools we must consider the
of the child, we must not set it at 14, we can consider a higher age MRS. ELLIOTT (in English):--Mr. Chairman, that I am going to support the
and hire charges for use of public swimming pools and change the basis
The purpose of the amendment to the By-laws is to raise the admission motion, but may I ask the committee to consider the age being raised to 15? charge for use of the gymnasium facilities being provided at Morrison Swimming Pool. The present hire charges were last revised in 1984 whereast admission fees were last revised in 1982. Even with the revised fees, the level. subsidy for swimming pools will be in the region of 70 per cent.
Sir, I beg to move.
MRS. MARGARET LI, VICE-CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION SELECT COMMITTE seconded (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I second the motion.
MR. SULKE (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I have made the points already int committee, I want to repeat them. First of all, that we are talking about a ve small amount in relation to our budget. Secondly, we are certainly going to str some people from going to swimming pools. Mr. Peter CHAN had made a poi if you take 3 kids, you are paying $3 extra plus another dollar for yourse Lastly, I think that it should be quite feasible and not take 6 months for t department to work out where to save $3m, so that this raise in fees. completely unnecessary, I cannot support the motion.
MR. PETER CHAN (in Cantonese):-Mr. Chairman, as I said sometimes it willh more expensive to bring children to the swimming pool and I do not think t cost is really too exorbitant. However, when the time comes around for the m review, I hope that appreciation could be taken of the parents who have to wai their children to swim. I support the motion but I really want to bring that up: something, that one should consider when the next review comes around support it basically.
MR. FREDERICK FUNG (in Cantonese):—Mr. Chairman, I will be abstainin because I think the two classifications are problematic. I hope that when charge fees we should base our charges on the financial means of the peop using the swimming pools. As far as children are concerned, say secondar school children, they have no economic income and they should be under second category.
The question was put.
The motion was carried with 27 votes for, 1 against and 1 abstention. (The
Chairman did not vote.)
4. MR. L. H. KWAN moved the following motion:—
RESOLVED that an application for liquor licence should be referred to the District Board concerned, instead of the City and New Territories Administration's District Officer for comments if consultation of public opinion is necessary in the process of the application.'
He said (in Cantonese):-The purpose of the motion is to improve on the Council's policy on liquor licensing the major aims of which, as described in item 2(c) of the policy, are ‘in so far as possible, to protect the public interest when granting liquor licences'. Item 3(4) of the policy rulings states:
All applications for new issue of liquor licences will be referred to the Commissioner of Police and the City District Officer concerned for comments. Public opinion will also be sought through advertisements published in the Government Gazette (in respect of liquor licences) or in two newspapers on different dates (in respect of club liquor licences) at the expense of the applicants.'
Recently; at the public hearings dealing with applications for liquor licences for the City Gardens, North Point, and Tak Shing Street, Yaumati, public reaction was very enthusiastic, and District Board members too were present to reflect the views of the local community. It is all to the good, and shows that the public do participate in the work of the Council and express their views.
Under the present practice, applications for liquor licences are referred to the District Officers concerned for comments. The District Officer will send out questionnaires to residents of the buildings involved and to the neighbourhood for their views. He also consults the corporate owners of the buildings or the mutual aid committees, and then presents to the Council the public views so collected together with his own recommendation, objection or qualifications.
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