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MR. Lo (in English):-I believe camping on beaches themselves is illegal, but in the area away from the beaches, I think that's alright.
MRS. CHOW (in English):—Mr. Chairman, may I ask Mr. Lo that of the 487 prosecution cases on litter offences last year, are the sentences handed down satisfactorily?
MR. LO (in English):—Mr. Chairman, I am afraid I have no information at this time. As to the result of these particular cases and what penalties were imposed, I am sure the department can supply Mrs. Chow with the figures if she wants.
MR. SULKE (in English):—I am sorry, Mr. Chairman, I don't think my question was answered. I was asking whether those who are camping on the beaches (I see them very often on Saturday and Sunday mornings) are prosecuted?
MR. Lo (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I did my best to answer Mr. Sulke's question. I said on the beaches, I think it is illegal. Away from the beaches, it is alright.
MR. SULKE (in English):-Yes, But are they being prosecuted?
MR. Lo (in English):-I have no information about prosecution. I don't believe they are prosecuted. In any case, this is outside the ambit of the general question.
MR. YOUNG (in English):-Mr. Chairman, with regard to the inability of prosecuting people who are sitting around their tent with refuse around, is this not very like the situation where the Council does have the ability to enforce people who have a shop where there is refuse in the vicinity?
MR. LO (in English):-It is very similar, Mr. Chairman, yes.
9. MR. B. A. BERNACCHI asked the following question (in English):---- When the Recreation Select Committee decided in June not to proceed with the Cape Collinson Road Park, inter alia, because a large amount would have to be spent in slope protection and drainage, did they appreciate that the Housing Authority is proposing to spend a lot of money of its own in slope protection and drainage in connection with the Wan Tsui Redevelopment Scheme?
MR. KENNETH T. C. LO, CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows (in English):-This question concerns Council's recent decision not to proceed with the Cape Collinson Road Park and whether it was appreciated that the Housing Authority is proposing to spend a lot of money on its own slope protection and drainage in connection with the Wan Tsui Redevelopment Scheme.
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The slope protection and drainage work in connection with the Housing Authority's Wan Tsui Redevelopment Scheme as mentioned by Mr. BERNACCHI is not connected with the proposed Cape Collinson Road Park which the Recreation Select Committee has decided not to develop because of the steep topography of the site.
The proposed Cape Collinson Road Park lies to the east of the site for the Wan Tsui Redevelopment Scheme and the two are in fact on different sites. According to the draft Engineering Conditions of the land allocation for the proposed park, all expenses in connection with slope protection and drainage for the project site would have to be paid for by the Urban Council as part of the project. The Wan Tsui Redevelopment will not therefore in any way reduce the expenditure required for the development of the Cape Collinson Road Park.
MR. BERNACCHI (in English):—I would like to ask two supplementaries together: (a) Are not the two proposed sites almost next to one another? and (b) Therefore, surely, the slope protection and drainage on the one must affect the cost of similar protection for the other, especially if undertaken together?
MR. Lo (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I have a plan here showing the site in question. I can't really quite make up where the Wan Tsui redevelopment site is. In any case, I am advised that there would be no savings because of the money spent on the Wan Tsui Redevelopment Scheme.
MR. BERNACCHI (in English):-It could be referred back to Mr. Lo's Select Committee because I do believe that if it is possible to develop Wan Tsui and the proposed park together, then there would be a considerable saving in cost.
CHAIRMAN (in English):-You suggest that the point in your supplementary be referred back to the Select Committee. Will you agree to that, Mr. Lo?
MR. Lo (in English):-Yes, Mr. Chairman. Didn't Mr. BERNACCHI want to ask two supplementaries?
MR. BERNACCHI (in English):-One was: Are not the two proposed sites almost next to one another? and (b) Therefore would it not be saving in cost if they were developed together?
MR. SAMUEL WONG (in English):- Mr. Chairman, how long has the Cape Collinson project been on the active list?
CHAIRMAN (in English): It is not related to the question, but would you like to answer?
MR. Lo (in English):-It certainly goes back to as long ago as 1977 when it was farmed out to a private architectural consultant.
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MR. Lo (in English):-I believe camping on beaches themselves is illegal, but in the area away from the beaches, I think that's alright.
MRS. CHOW (in English):—Mr. Chairman, may I ask Mr. Lo that of the 487 prosecution cases on litter offences last year, are the sentences handed down satisfactorily?
MR. LO (in English):—Mr. Chairman, I am afraid I have no information at this time. As to the result of these particular cases and what penalties were
imposed, I am sure the department can supply Mrs. Cнow with the figures if she wants.
MR. SULKE (in English):—I am sorry, Mr. Chairman, I don't think my question was answered. I was asking whether those who are camping on the beaches (I see them very often on Saturday and Sunday mornings) are prosecuted?
MR. Lo (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I did my best to answer Mr. SULKE'S question. I said on the beaches, I think it is illegal. Away from the beaches, it is alright.
MR. SULKE (in English):-Yes, But are they being prosecuted?
MR. Lo (in English):-I have no information about prosecution. I don't believe they are prosecuted. In any case, this is outside the ambit of the general question.
MR. YOUNG (in English):-Mr. Chairman, with regard to the inability of prosecuting people who are sitting around their tent with refuse around, is this not very like the situation where the Council does have the ability to enforce people who have a shop where there is refuse in the vicinity?
MR. LO (in English):-It is very similar, Mr. Chairman, yes.
9. MR. B. A. BERNACCHI asked the following question (in English):---- When the Recreation Select Committee decided in June not to proceed with the Cape Collinson Road Park, inter alia, because a large amount would have to be spent in slope protection and drainage, did they appreciate that the Housing Authority is proposing to spend a lot of money of its own in slope protection and drainage in connection with the Wan Tsui Redevelopment Scheme?
MR. KENNETH T. C. LO, CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows (in English):-This question concerns Council's recent decision not to proceed with the Cape Collinson Road Park and whether it was appreciated that the Housing Authority is proposing to spend a lot of money on its own slope protection and drainage in connection with the Wan Tsui Redevelopment Scheme.
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The slope protection and drainage work in connection with the Housing Authority's Wan Tsui Redevelopment Scheme as mentioned by Mr. BERNACCHI is not connected with the proposed Cape Collinson Road Park which the Recreation Select Committec has decided not to develop because of the steep topography of the site.
The proposed Cape Collinson Road Park lies to the east of the site for the Wan Tsui Redevelopment Scheme and the two are in fact on different sites. According to the draft Engineering Conditions of the land allocation for the proposed park, all expenses in connection with slope protection and drainage for the project site would have to be paid for by the Urban Council as part of the project. The Wan Tsui Redevelopment will not therefore in any way reduce the expenditure required for the development of the Cape Collinson Road Park.
MR. BERNACCHI (in English):—I would like to ask two supplementaries together: (a) Are not the two proposed sites almost next to one another? and (b) Therefore, surely, the slope protection and drainage on the one must affect the cost of similar protection for the other, especially if undertaken together?
MR. Lo (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I have a plan here showing the site in question. I can't really quite make up where the Wan Tsui redevelopment site is. In any case, I am advised that there would be no savings because of the money spent on the Wan Tsui Redevelopment Scheme.
MR. BERNACCHI (in English):-It could be referred back to Mr. Lo's Select Committee because I do believe that if it is possible to develop Wan Tsui and the proposed park together, then there would be a considerable saving in cost.
CHAIRMAN (in English):-You suggest that the point in your supplementary be referred back to the Select Committee. Will you agree to that, Mr. Lo?
MR. Lo (in English):-Yes, Mr. Chairman. Didn't Mr. BERNACCHI want to ask two supplementaries?
MR. BERNACCHI (in English):-One was: Are not the two proposed sites almost next to one another? and (b) Therefore would it not be saving in cost if they were developed together?
MR. SAMUEL WONG (in English):- Mr. Chairman, how long has the Cape Collinson project been on the active list?
CHAIRMAN (in English): It is not related to the question, but would you like to answer?
MR. Lo (in English):-It certainly goes back to as long ago as 1977 when it was farmed out to a private architectural consultant.
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