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MR HOWARD H. W. YOUNG (in English): Mr Chairman, the question is about stalls on the first floor. Is it correct to take it that stalls on the ground floor are generally more viable and therefore fully occupied?

MR CHAN (in English): The answer generally is yes.

MR CHAN CHI-KWAN asked the following question (in English): I was informed that some Urban Council lorries emit offensive smells while travelling in the Cross Harbour Tunnel and were the subject of 2 complaints from the Tunnel Authority. Can this Council be informed of what has been done about it?

MRS GRACE HO, CHAIRMAN OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL HYGIENE SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows (in English): Two complaints have been received from the Cross Harbour Tunnel Management recently about UC vehicles. The first was lodged in September when a Transtaina vehicle carrying abattoir waste (which cannot be incinerated) was on its way to the Sai Cho Wan Tip from the Kennedy Town Abattoir. On receipt of the complaint, remedial steps were taken. Containers are now covered with tarpaulins and chloride of lime is spread on the waste inside. Consideration is also being given to fitting them with air-tight metal covers. The Tunnel Management have since expressed satisfaction with the Department's response to their complaint.

In mid-October, the Tunnel Management complained of the foul smell from an Urban Council van carrying condemned meat and coagulated blood from the Cheung Sha Wan Abattoir to the Kennedy Town By-products Plant and from three other refuse collection vehicles. The complaint against the van arose because of fluid dripping on to the ground, leaving a smell within the Tunnel. This has been a problem for some time. An earlier attempt to solve it by using plastic containers instead of the traditional baskets to hold the coagulated blood failed because the plastic containers broke after two or three days' usage. Metal trays are now provided on the floor of the vans used for this purpose, to hold the baskets containing coagulated blood and, in addition, plastic sheets are used as liners for the baskets. Further experiments are also being conducted with a different, more expensive type of plastic bucket in the hope of replacing baskets entirely. Consideration is also being given to the possibility of constructing special water-proof ‘wells' in the carrying vehicles. The Tunnel Management have been assured that everything possible will be done to ensure that there is no recurrence of the incident.

The rear hoppers of refuse collection vehicles sent on cross harbour journeys are now covered with canvas secured by metal hooks to minimize smell. No further complaints have been received from the Tunnel Management since the improved measures were introduced but the Department will continue to keep in mind the need for care in this matter.

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MR CHAN CHI-KWAN (in English): Sorry, I have been assured that all the vehicles carrying this do bear the prefix UC, and I was also informed that this always happens on Sunday. UC 1 or UC 2 seldom cross the harbour on Sunday, would the Chairman of the Environmental Hygiene Select Committee ask the department to be more careful when this type of vehicle travels on Sunday?

MRS HO (in English): Mr Chairman, I am afraid I do not quite understand the supplementary. (Laughter). Is it the intention of my colleague that UC 1 and UC 2, which are private cars, should be adapted to carry coagulated blood? (Laughter).

CHAIRMAN (in English): I assure Mrs Ho that none of us understood the supplementary either. (Laughter).

MR CHAN CHI-KWAN (in English): I have no information on whether UC 1 or UC 2 carries this kind of thing, but I was told that the vehicles that carry this smelly material do carry a number UC something and I did not ask whether it was UC 1 or UC 2. Therefore, I would ask the relevant Chairman to urge the department to be more careful otherwise it will give a black name to any vehicle carrying UC something.

CHAIRMAN (in English): Including UC 1 and UC 2, of course. (Laughter).

MR CHAN CHI-KWAN (in English): Yes, including UC 1 and UC 2.

CHAIRMAN (in English): Would you give him that assurance, Mrs Ho?

MRS HO (in English): Yes, I can assure Mr CHAN, and all Members here that vehicles serving all Select Committee and in the service of the Urban Council will be carefully screened to make sure that they do not cause a nuisance.

MISS CECILIA L. Y. YEUNG (in Cantonese): Mr Chairman, for the vehicles which do carry smelly material, we do have management under the Urban Services Department. But I would like to ask what about the smelly vehicles being used by other citizens. How can we control them? Besides the Urban Council vehicles, what about vehicles being used by private companies, say for instance, the cleansing companies, etc? They might sometimes carry loads which have very bad smells. They might be in the tunnel area or they might be on the roads. Is there anything we can do about these as far as environment and hygiene is concerned? Is there anything within our power to control them?

MRS HO (in English): I haven't had notice of that question. I think it is a matter which we must look into to see whether Nuisance By-laws in general cover this. I am not able to answer this immediately.

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Page 72 of 135 105 104 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL MR HOWARD H. W. YOUNG (in English): Mr Chairman, the question is about stalls on the first floor. Is it correct to take it that stalls on the ground floor are generally more viable and therefore fully occupied? MR CHAN (in English): The answer generally is yes. MR CHAN CHI-KWAN asked the following question (in English): I was informed that some Urban Council lorries emit offensive smells while travelling in the Cross Harbour Tunnel and were the subject of 2 complaints from the Tunnel Authority. Can this Council be informed of what has been done about it? MRS GRACE HO, CHAIRMAN OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL HYGIENE SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows (in English): Two complaints have been received from the Cross Harbour Tunnel Management recently about UC vehicles. The first was lodged in September when a Transtaina vehicle carrying abattoir waste (which cannot be incinerated) was on its way to the Sai Cho Wan Tip from the Kennedy Town Abattoir. On receipt of the complaint, remedial steps were taken. Containers are now covered with tarpaulins and chloride of lime is spread on the waste inside. Consideration is also being given to fitting them with air-tight metal covers. The Tunnel Management have since expressed satisfaction with the Department's response to their complaint. In mid-October, the Tunnel Management complained of the foul smell from an Urban Council van carrying condemned meat and coagulated blood from the Cheung Sha Wan Abattoir to the Kennedy Town By-products Plant and from three other refuse collection vehicles. The complaint against the van arose because of fluid dripping on to the ground, leaving a smell within the Tunnel. This has been a problem for some time. An earlier attempt to solve it by using plastic containers instead of the traditional baskets to hold the coagulated blood failed because the plastic containers broke after two or three days' usage. Metal trays are now provided on the floor of the vans used for this purpose, to hold the baskets containing coagulated blood and, in addition, plastic sheets are used as liners for the baskets. Further experiments are also being conducted with a different, more expensive type of plastic bucket in the hope of replacing baskets entirely. Consideration is also being given to the possibility of constructing special water-proof ‘wells' in the carrying vehicles. The Tunnel Management have been assured that everything possible will be done to ensure that there is no recurrence of the incident. The rear hoppers of refuse collection vehicles sent on cross harbour journeys are now covered with canvas secured by metal hooks to minimize smell. No further complaints have been received from the Tunnel Management since the improved measures were introduced but the Department will continue to keep in mind the need for care in this matter. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL MR CHAN CHI-KWAN (in English): Sorry, I have been assured that all the vehicles carrying this do bear the prefix UC, and I was also informed that this always happens on Sunday. UC 1 or UC 2 seldom cross the harbour on Sunday, would the Chairman of the Environmental Hygiene Select Committee ask the department to be more careful when this type of vehicle travels on Sunday? MRS HO (in English): Mr Chairman, I am afraid I do not quite understand the supplementary. (Laughter). Is it the intention of my colleague that UC 1 and UC 2, which are private cars, should be adapted to carry coagulated blood? (Laughter). CHAIRMAN (in English): I assure Mrs Ho that none of us understood the supplementary either. (Laughter). MR CHAN CHI-KWAN (in English): I have no information on whether UC 1 or UC 2 carries this kind of thing, but I was told that the vehicles that carry this smelly material do carry a number UC something and I did not ask whether it was UC 1 or UC 2. Therefore, I would ask the relevant Chairman to urge the department to be more careful otherwise it will give a black name to any vehicle carrying UC something. CHAIRMAN (in English): Including UC 1 and UC 2, of course. (Laughter). MR CHAN CHI-KWAN (in English): Yes, including UC 1 and UC 2. CHAIRMAN (in English): Would you give him that assurance, Mrs Ho? MRS HO (in English): Yes, I can assure Mr CHAN, and all Members here that vehicles serving all Select Committee and in the service of the Urban Council will be carefully screened to make sure that they do not cause a nuisance. MISS CECILIA L. Y. YEUNG (in Cantonese): Mr Chairman, for the vehicles which do carry smelly material, we do have management under the Urban Services Department. But I would like to ask what about the smelly vehicles being used by other citizens. How can we control them? Besides the Urban Council vehicles, what about vehicles being used by private companies, say for instance, the cleansing companies, etc? They might sometimes carry loads which have very bad smells. They might be in the tunnel area or they might be on the roads. Is there anything we can do about these as far as environment and hygiene is concerned? Is there anything within our power to control them? MRS HO (in English): I haven't had notice of that question. I think it is a matter which we must look into to see whether Nuisance By-laws in general cover this. I am not able to answer this immediately. Page 72 of 135

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Page 72 of 135 Page 72 of 135 105 104 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL MR HOWARD H. W. YOUNG (in English): Mr Chairman, the question is about stalls on the first floor. Is it correct to take it that stalls on the ground floor are generally more viable and therefore fully occupied? MR CHAN (in English):-The answer generally is yes. 6 MR CHAN CHI-KWAN asked the following question (in English):-I was informed that some Urban Council lorries emit offensive smells while travel ling in the Cross Harbour Tunnel and were the subject of 2 complaints from the Tunnel Authority. Can this Council be informed of what has been done about it? MRS GRACE HO, CHAIRMAN OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL HYGIENE SELECT COM. MITTEE, replied as follows (in English):-Two complaints have been received from the Cross Harbour Tunnel Management recently about UC vehicles. The first was lodged in September when a Transtaina vehicle carrying abattoir waste (which cannot be incinerated) was on its way to the Sai Cho Wan Tip from the Kennedy Town Abattoir. On receipt of the complaint, remedial steps were taken. Containers are now covered with tarpaulins and chloride of lime is spread on the waste inside. Consideration is also being given to fitting them with air-tight metal covers. The Tunnel Management have since expressed satisfaction with the Department's response to their complaint. In mid-October, the Tunnel Management complained of the foul smell from an Urban Council van carrying condemned meat and coagulated blood from the Cheung Sha Wan Abattoir to the Kennedy Town By-products Plant and from three other refuse collection vehicles. The complaint against the van arose because of fluid dripping on to the ground, leaving a smell within the Tunnel. This has been a problem for some time. An earlier attempt to solve it by using plastic containers instead of the traditional baskets to hold the coagulated blood failed because the plastic containers broke after two or three days' usage. Metal trays are now provided on the floor of the vans used for this purpose, to hold the baskets containing coagulated blood and, in addition, plastic sheets are used as liners for the baskets. Further experi ments are also being conducted with a different, more expensive type of plastic bucket in the hope of replacing baskets entirely. Consideration is also being given to the possibility of constructing special water-proof ‘wells' in the carrying vehicles. The Tunnel Management have been assured that everything possible will be done to ensure that there is no recurrence of the incident. The rear hoppers of refuse collection vehicles sent on cross harbour journeys are now covered with canvas secured by metal hooks to minimize smell. No further complaints have been received from the Tunnel Manage- ment since the improved measures were introduced but the Department will continue to keep in mind the need for care in this matter. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL MR CHAN CHI-KWAN (in English):-Sorry, I have been assured that all the vehicles carrying this do bear the prefix UC, and I was also informed that this always happens on Sunday. UC 1 or UC 2 seldom cross the harbour on Sunday, would the Chairman of the Environmental Hygiene Select Com- mittee ask the department to be more careful when this type of vehicle travels on Sunday? MRS HO (in English):--Mr Chairman, I am afraid I do not quite understand the supplementary. (Laughter). Is it the intention of my colleague that UC 1 and UC 2, which are private cars, should be adapted to carry coagulated blood? (Laughter). CHAIRMAN (in English):-I assure Mrs Ho that none of us understood the supplementary either. (Laughter). MR CHAN CHI-KWAN (in English):-I have no information on whether UC 1 or UC 2 carries this kind of thing, but I was told that the vehicles that carry this smelly material do carry a number UC something and I did not ask whether it was UC 1 or UC 2. Therefore, I would ask the relevant Chairman to urge the department to be more careful otherwise it will give a black name to any vehicle carrying UC something. CHAIRMAN (in English):-Including UC 1 and UC 2, of course. (Laughter). MR CHAN CHI-KWAN (in English):-Yes, including UC 1 and UC 2. CHAIRMAN (in English):-Would you give him that assurance, Mrs Ho? MRS Ho (in English):—Yes, I can assure Mr CHAN, and all Members here that vehicles serving all Select Committee and in the service of the Urban Council will be carefully screened to make sure that they do not cause a nuisance. MISS CECILIA L. Y. YEUNG (in Cantonese): — -Mr Chairman, for the vehicles which do carry smelly material, we do have management under the Urban Services Department. But I would like to ask what about the smelly vehicles being used by other citizens. How can we control them? Besides the Urban Council vehicles, what about vehicles being used by private companies, say for instance, the cleansing companies, etc? They might sometimes carry loads which have very bad smells. They might be in the tunnel area or they might be on the roads. Is there be anything we can do about these as far as environment and hygiene is concerned? Is there anything within our power to control them? MRS HO (in English): -I haven't had notice of that question. I think it is a matter which we must look into to see whether Nuisance By-laws in general cover this. I am not able to answer this immediately.

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MR HOWARD H. W. YOUNG (in English): Mr Chairman, the question is about stalls on the first floor. Is it correct to take it that stalls on the ground

floor are generally more viable and therefore fully occupied?

MR CHAN (in English):-The answer generally is yes.

6 MR CHAN CHI-KWAN asked the following question (in English):-I was informed that some Urban Council lorries emit offensive smells while travel ling in the Cross Harbour Tunnel and were the subject of 2 complaints from the Tunnel Authority. Can this Council be informed of what has been done

about it?

MRS GRACE HO, CHAIRMAN OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL HYGIENE SELECT COM. MITTEE, replied as follows (in English):-Two complaints have been received from the Cross Harbour Tunnel Management recently about UC vehicles. The first was lodged in September when a Transtaina vehicle carrying abattoir waste (which cannot be incinerated) was on its way to the Sai Cho Wan Tip from the Kennedy Town Abattoir. On receipt of the complaint, remedial steps were taken. Containers are now covered with tarpaulins and chloride of lime is spread on the waste inside. Consideration is also being given to fitting them with air-tight metal covers. The Tunnel Management have since expressed satisfaction with the Department's response to their complaint.

In mid-October, the Tunnel Management complained of the foul smell from an Urban Council van carrying condemned meat and coagulated blood from the Cheung Sha Wan Abattoir to the Kennedy Town By-products Plant and from three other refuse collection vehicles. The complaint against the van arose because of fluid dripping on to the ground, leaving a smell within the Tunnel. This has been a problem for some time. An earlier attempt to solve it by using plastic containers instead of the traditional baskets to hold the coagulated blood failed because the plastic containers broke after two or three days' usage. Metal trays are now provided on the floor of the vans used for this purpose, to hold the baskets containing coagulated blood and, in addition, plastic sheets are used as liners for the baskets. Further experi ments are also being conducted with a different, more expensive type of plastic bucket in the hope of replacing baskets entirely. Consideration is also being given to the possibility of constructing special water-proof ‘wells' in the carrying vehicles. The Tunnel Management have been assured that everything possible will be done to ensure that there is no recurrence of the incident.

The rear hoppers of refuse collection vehicles sent on cross harbour journeys are now covered with canvas secured by metal hooks to minimize smell. No further complaints have been received from the Tunnel Manage- ment since the improved measures were introduced but the Department will continue to keep in mind the need for care in this matter.

HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

MR CHAN CHI-KWAN (in English):-Sorry, I have been assured that all the vehicles carrying this do bear the prefix UC, and I was also informed that this always happens on Sunday. UC 1 or UC 2 seldom cross the harbour on Sunday, would the Chairman of the Environmental Hygiene Select Com- mittee ask the department to be more careful when this type of vehicle

travels on Sunday?

MRS HO (in English):--Mr Chairman, I am afraid I do not quite understand the supplementary. (Laughter). Is it the intention of my colleague that UC 1 and UC 2, which are private cars, should be adapted to carry coagulated blood? (Laughter).

CHAIRMAN (in English):-I assure Mrs Ho that none of us understood the supplementary either. (Laughter).

MR CHAN CHI-KWAN (in English):-I have no information on whether UC 1 or UC 2 carries this kind of thing, but I was told that the vehicles that carry this smelly material do carry a number UC something and I did not ask whether it was UC 1 or UC 2. Therefore, I would ask the relevant Chairman to urge the department to be more careful otherwise it will give a black name to any vehicle carrying UC something.

CHAIRMAN (in English):-Including UC 1 and UC 2, of course. (Laughter). MR CHAN CHI-KWAN (in English):-Yes, including UC 1 and UC 2. CHAIRMAN (in English):-Would you give him that assurance, Mrs Ho?

MRS Ho (in English):—Yes, I can assure Mr CHAN, and all Members here that vehicles serving all Select Committee and in the service of the Urban Council will be carefully screened to make sure that they do not cause a nuisance.

MISS CECILIA L. Y. YEUNG (in Cantonese): — -Mr Chairman, for the vehicles which do carry smelly material, we do have management under the Urban Services Department. But I would like to ask what about the smelly vehicles being used by other citizens. How can we control them? Besides the Urban Council vehicles, what about vehicles being used by private companies, say for instance, the cleansing companies, etc? They might sometimes carry loads which have very bad smells. They might be in the tunnel area or they might be on the roads. Is there be anything we can do about these as far as environment and hygiene is concerned? Is there anything within our power to control them?

MRS HO (in English): -I haven't had notice of that question. I think it is a matter which we must look into to see whether Nuisance By-laws in general cover this. I am not able to answer this immediately.

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