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bay for goods vehicles to serve the light industrial undertakings in the vicinity. The few hawkers using this particular area may continue to carry out their business in the remaining part of Cheung Wong Road.

I beg to move.

MR. TSIN SAI-NIN, VICE-CHAIRMAN OF THE HAWKERS SELECT COMMITTEE (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I second the motion.

The question was put.

The motion was carried with twenty votes for and one abstention. (The Chairman did not vote).

(2) MRS. E. ELLIOTT, CHAIRMAN OF THE LIBRARIES SELECT COMMITTEE, moved the following motion:

"RESOLVED that the Urban Council adopts the Listening Library Fees Notice 1978."

She said (in English):-Mr Chairman, as Chairman of the Libraries Select Committee, I rise on the motion standing in my name.

In the new listening libraries at Yau Ma Tei and Kwun Tong, facilities have been incorporated for two persons to be able to listen to the same recording simultaneously. This has been done in order to maximize usage of the facilities provided in these listening libraries, and hence make the service available to more persons.

The purpose of the Government Notice is to enable the Council to charge per capita fees for simultaneous listening, as the existing Notice, which was devised for the listening library at the City Hall, is inadequate for this purpose.

I beg to move.

MRS. GRACE HO, VICE-CHAIRMAN OF THE LIBRARIES SELECT COMMITTEE (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I second the motion.

The question was put.

The motion was carried unanimously.

MR. B. A. BERNACCHI (in English):—Mr. Chairman, on a point of order, why do we never use the automatic voting system?

CHAIRMAN (in English):-We will refer that to the Secretary for another trial run. The first run was not successful. (Laughter)

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MR. PETER C. K. CHAN (in English):-I rise under Standing Order 19(1)(i) “Any Other Business". As the agenda does not provide the item called "Any Other Business", some time indeed there are minor points.

CHAIRMAN (in English):-Mr. CHAN, will you please be seated, unless you now rise on a point of order? There is no "Any Other Business" on the agenda of a formal meeting such as this one.

MR. CHAN (in English):-I rise on a point of order. CHAIRMAN (in English):-Please state your point of order.

MR. CHAN (in English):--The point of order is that, Mr. Chairman, for many meetings you do have a communication under Standing Order 19(1)(d) to receive such communication and the Chairman may decide to lay before the Council.

CHAIRMAN (in English):-But that was not your first point of order. It was about "Any Other Business". (Laughter). Please state it.

MR. CHAN (in English):-But because there is no "Any Other Business" in the agenda, that is why I raise it under Standing Order. CHAIRMAN (in English):-There is never "Any Other Business" on the agenda of a formal meeting. (Laughter)

MR. CHAN (in English):-In that case, anyway, the communication laid before this Council by you, Sir, is the only paper that we do not have a written copy, either today or later. Can you see that after the meeting, or during the meeting, we do have a text as all other motions and speeches, which as far as possible, that we can follow your speech while it goes along.

CHAIRMAN (in English):-Mr. CHAN, I will ask the Secretary to ensure that you do not miss such papers in the future which everybody else gets without fail. (Laughter)

ADJOURNMENT — 4.24 P.M.

CHAIRMAN (in English):-As the last motion actually concludes the business of this meeting, I will declare it adjourned to be reconvened on Tuesday, 14th March 1978, at 4 p.m.

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Page 296 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL bay for goods vehicles to serve the light industrial undertakings in the vicinity. The few hawkers using this particular area may continue to carry out their business in the remaining part of Cheung Wong Road. I beg to move. MR. TSIN SAI-NIN, VICE-CHAIRMAN OF THE HAWKERS SELECT COMMITTEE (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I second the motion. The question was put. The motion was carried with twenty votes for and one abstention. (The Chairman did not vote). (2) MRS. E. ELLIOTT, CHAIRMAN OF THE LIBRARIES SELECT COMMITTEE, moved the following motion: "RESOLVED that the Urban Council adopts the Listening Library Fees Notice 1978." She said (in English):-Mr Chairman, as Chairman of the Libraries Select Committee, I rise on the motion standing in my name. In the new listening libraries at Yau Ma Tei and Kwun Tong, facilities have been incorporated for two persons to be able to listen to the same recording simultaneously. This has been done in order to maximize usage of the facilities provided in these listening libraries, and hence make the service available to more persons. The purpose of the Government Notice is to enable the Council to charge per capita fees for simultaneous listening, as the existing Notice, which was devised for the listening library at the City Hall, is inadequate for this purpose. I beg to move. MRS. GRACE HO, VICE-CHAIRMAN OF THE LIBRARIES SELECT COMMITTEE (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I second the motion. The question was put. The motion was carried unanimously. MR. B. A. BERNACCHI (in English):—Mr. Chairman, on a point of order, why do we never use the automatic voting system? CHAIRMAN (in English):-We will refer that to the Secretary for another trial run. The first run was not successful. (Laughter) HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL Page 297 MR. PETER C. K. CHAN (in English):-I rise under Standing Order 19(1)(i) “Any Other Business". As the agenda does not provide the item called "Any Other Business", some time indeed there are minor points. CHAIRMAN (in English):-Mr. CHAN, will you please be seated, unless you now rise on a point of order? There is no "Any Other Business" on the agenda of a formal meeting such as this one. MR. CHAN (in English):-I rise on a point of order. CHAIRMAN (in English):-Please state your point of order. MR. CHAN (in English):--The point of order is that, Mr. Chairman, for many meetings you do have a communication under Standing Order 19(1)(d) to receive such communication and the Chairman may decide to lay before the Council. CHAIRMAN (in English):-But that was not your first point of order. It was about "Any Other Business". (Laughter). Please state it. MR. CHAN (in English):-But because there is no "Any Other Business" in the agenda, that is why I raise it under Standing Order. CHAIRMAN (in English):-There is never "Any Other Business" on the agenda of a formal meeting. (Laughter) MR. CHAN (in English):-In that case, anyway, the communication laid before this Council by you, Sir, is the only paper that we do not have a written copy, either today or later. Can you see that after the meeting, or during the meeting, we do have a text as all other motions and speeches, which as far as possible, that we can follow your speech while it goes along. CHAIRMAN (in English):-Mr. CHAN, I will ask the Secretary to ensure that you do not miss such papers in the future which everybody else gets without fail. (Laughter) ADJOURNMENT 4.24 P.M. CHAIRMAN (in English):-As the last motion actually concludes the business of this meeting, I will declare it adjourned to be reconvened on Tuesday, 14th March 1978, at 4 p.m. PRINTED AND PUBLISHED BY D. R. RICK. GOVERNMENT PRINTER AT THE GOVERNMENT PRESS, JAVA ROAD, HONG KONG Page 168 of 174
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Page! 296 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL bay for goods vehicles to serve the light industrial undertakings in the vicinity. The few hawkers using this particular area may continue to carry out their business in the remaining part of Cheung Wong Road. I beg to move. MR. TSIN SAI-NIN, VICE-CHAIRMAN OF THE HAWKERS SELECT COMMITTEE (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I second the motion. The question was put. The motion was carried with twenty votes for and one abstention. (The Chairman did not vote). (2) MRS. E. ELLIOTT, CHAIRMAN OF THE LIBRARIES SELECT COMMITTEE, moved the following motion: "RESOLVED that the Urban Council adopts the Listening Library Fees Notice 1978." She said (in English):-Mr Chairman, as Chairman of the Libraries Select Committee, I rise on the motion standing in my name. In the new listening libraries at Yau Ma Tei and Kwun Tong, facilities have been incorporated for two persons to be able to listen to the same recording simultaneously. This has been done in order to maximize usage of the facilities provided in these listening libraries, and hence make the service available to more persons. The purpose of the Government Notice is to enable the Council to charge per capita fees for simultaneous listening, as the existing Notice, which was devised for the listening library at the City Hall, is inadequate for this purpose. I beg to move. MRS. GRACE HO, VICE-CHAIRMAN OF THE LIBRARIES SELECT COM- MITTEE (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I second the motion. The question was put. The motion was carried unanimously. MR. B. A. BERNACCHI (in English):—Mr. Chairman, on a point of order, why do we never use the automatic voting system? CHAIRMAN (in English):-We will refer that to the Secretary for another trial run. The first run was not successful. (Laughter) HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL Page 168 of 174 297 MR. PETER C. K. CHAN (in English):-I rise under Standing Order 19(1)(i) “Any Other Business". As the agenda does not provide the item called "Any Other Business", some time indeed there are minor points. CHAIRMAN (in English):-Mr. CHAN, will you please be seated, unless you now rise on a point of order? There is no "Any Other Business" on the agenda of a formal meeting such as this one. MR. CHAN (in English):-I rise on a point of order. CHAIRMAN (in English):-Please state your point of order. MR. CHAN (in English):--The point of order is that, Mr. Chairman, for many meetings you do have a communication under Standing Order 19(1)(d) to receive such communication and the Chairman may decide to lay before the Council. CHAIRMAN (in English):-But that was not your first point of order. It was about "Any Other Business". (Laughter). Please state it. MR. CHAN (in English):-But because there is no "Any Other Business" in the agenda, that is why I raise it under Standing Order. CHAIRMAN (in English):-There is never "Any Other Business" on the agenda of a formal meeting. (Laughter) MR. CHAN (in English):-In that case, anyway, the communication laid before this Council by you, Sir, is the only paper that we do not have a written copy, either today or later. Can you see that after the meeting, or during the meeting, we do have a text as all other motions and speeches, which as far as possible, that we can follow your speech while it goes along. CHAIRMAN (in English):-Mr. CHAN, I will ask the Secretary to ensure that you do not miss such papers in the future which everybody else gets without fail. (Laughter) ADJOURNMENT 4.24 P.M. CHAIRMAN (in English):-As the last motion actually concludes the business of this meeting, I will declare it adjourned to be reconvened on Tuesday, 14th March 1978, at 4 p.m. PRINTED AND PUBLISHED BY D. R. RICK. GOVERNMENT PRINTER AT THE GOVERNMENT PRESS, JAVA ROAD, HONG KONG
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bay for goods vehicles to serve the light industrial undertakings in the vicinity. The few hawkers using this particular area may continue to carry out their business in the remaining part of Cheung Wong Road.

I beg to move.

MR. TSIN SAI-NIN, VICE-CHAIRMAN OF THE HAWKERS SELECT COMMITTEE (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I second the motion.

The question was put.

The motion was carried with twenty votes for and one abstention. (The Chairman did not vote).

(2) MRS. E. ELLIOTT, CHAIRMAN OF THE LIBRARIES SELECT COMMITTEE, moved the following motion:

"RESOLVED that the Urban Council adopts the Listening

Library Fees Notice 1978."

She said (in English):-Mr Chairman, as Chairman of the Libraries Select Committee, I rise on the motion standing in my name.

In the new listening libraries at Yau Ma Tei and Kwun Tong, facilities have been incorporated for two persons to be able to listen to the same recording simultaneously. This has been done in order to maximize usage of the facilities provided in these listening libraries, and hence make the service available to more persons.

The purpose of the Government Notice is to enable the Council to charge per capita fees for simultaneous listening, as the existing Notice, which was devised for the listening library at the City Hall, is inadequate for this purpose.

I beg to move.

MRS. GRACE HO, VICE-CHAIRMAN OF THE LIBRARIES SELECT COM- MITTEE (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I second the motion.

The question was put.

The motion was carried unanimously.

MR. B. A. BERNACCHI (in English):—Mr. Chairman, on a point of order, why do we never use the automatic voting system?

CHAIRMAN (in English):-We will refer that to the Secretary for another trial run. The first run was not successful. (Laughter)

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MR. PETER C. K. CHAN (in English):-I rise under Standing Order 19(1)(i) “Any Other Business". As the agenda does not provide the item called "Any Other Business", some time indeed there are minor points.

CHAIRMAN (in English):-Mr. CHAN, will you please be seated, unless you now rise on a point of order? There is no "Any Other Business" on the agenda of a formal meeting such as this one.

MR. CHAN (in English):-I rise on a point of order. CHAIRMAN (in English):-Please state your point of order.

MR. CHAN (in English):--The point of order is that, Mr. Chairman, for many meetings you do have a communication under Standing Order 19(1)(d) to receive such communication and the Chairman may decide to lay before the Council.

CHAIRMAN (in English):-But that was not your first point of order. It was about "Any Other Business". (Laughter). Please state it.

MR. CHAN (in English):-But because there is no "Any Other Business" in the agenda, that is why I raise it under Standing Order. CHAIRMAN (in English):-There is never "Any Other Business" on the agenda of a formal meeting. (Laughter)

MR. CHAN (in English):-In that case, anyway, the communication laid before this Council by you, Sir, is the only paper that we do not have a written copy, either today or later. Can you see that after the meeting, or during the meeting, we do have a text as all other motions and speeches, which as far as possible, that we can follow your speech while it goes along.

CHAIRMAN (in English):-Mr. CHAN, I will ask the Secretary to ensure that you do not miss such papers in the future which everybody else gets without fail. (Laughter)

ADJOURNMENT — 4.24 P.M.

CHAIRMAN (in English):-As the last motion actually concludes the business of this meeting, I will declare it adjourned to be reconvened on Tuesday, 14th March 1978, at 4 p.m.

PRINTED AND PUBLISHED BY D. R. RICK. GOVERNMENT PRINTER AT THE GOVERNMENT PRESS, JAVA ROAD, HONG KONG

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