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HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

Far too much time and resources have to be devoted to trying to control their health conditions, and the Urban Council has long since taken the view that pig-breeding should not be allowed in the urban areas. But action here and the legal responsibility rests with the Government, not with the Urban Council. I understand that, whereas there is general agreement on the need to prohibit pig-breeding in the urban areas, difficulty arises in amending the law and in carrying out the necessary clearances without causing hardship. But there don't appear to be insoluble problems and I will arrange for the Director of Urban Services to pursue the matter with the Government.

MR. MACKENZIE (in English): Mr. Chairman, in pursuing the Council's policy of aiding and encouraging the removal of pig-breeding from the urban areas, may I ask if there is any regular liaison or communication with the Agriculture and Fisheries Department or are we working purely on an ad hoc basis?

DR. HU (in English): I don't know exactly, Mr. Chairman, but so far as I know, it is on an ad hoc basis.

DR. DENNY M. H. HUANG (in Cantonese): Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask Dr. Hu, is he also concerned about those citizens who are living by the pig-breeders in Kowloon and will they be treated exactly the same as those in Tin Hau Temple Road? In the past, we discussed pig-breeding in urban areas and our past policy seemed to be that, unless we need the area to be used for re-development, there would be no action taken. I don't know whether the present policy is the same as that in the past.

DR. HU (in English): Mr. Chairman, I understand that Dr. Denny HUANG did raise this question sometime ago about the pig-breeding in Kowloon Tong. And since then, I understand that the Department has paid constant attention to that area. So I understand that that area is probably becoming better than before. About the policy of pig-breeding, I understand that it has always been considered undesirable to have pig-breeding in urban areas, but as I have already said in my answer to the question that to clear the pig sites quickly would cause a great deal of hardship, so we always take the balanced view on this matter when we carry out our policy.

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(2) MR. JOHN MACKENZIE asked the following question (in English):

Since I last raised the matter in November 1975, what progress has been made in developing the waste-land at the north-west corner of Victoria Park for public recreational use? What amenities are planned, and when will the area be opened to the public?

MR. KENNETH T. C. LO, CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION AND AMENITIES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows (in English):

Mr. Chairman, Mr. MACKENZIE will recall that, in my reply to his similar question in November 1975, I stated that the land at the north-west corner of Victoria Park was going to be developed into a garden and children's playground with funds from the Urban Amenities Block Vote and a donation of $60,000 from the Lions Club of Bayview towards the provision of children's play equipment. Work on this project started in June and is due for completion this month. The children's play equipment has already been installed and planting is in progress. It is hoped that this garden will be available for public enjoyment by the end of the month.

MR. JOHN MACKENZIE (in English): Mr. Chairman, may I enquire of the total cost of the construction now under way?

MR. LO (in English): Mr. Chairman, I understand the original estimate was $310,000 and now it is going to cost $275,000. That of course excludes a donation of $60,000 from the Lions Club.

MR. MACKENZIE (in English): Mr. Chairman, it appears to me that a rather pleasant small green patch had been converted into a concrete and steel construction, may I ask, following your own comments earlier, whether a "proper total planning" has been applied in the development of Victoria Park, or is this another ad hoc development?

MR. LO (in English): Mr. Chairman, this is part of a larger scheme of improvement to Victoria Park. There will be grass areas in the Park itself. This is not an isolated recreational ground by itself.

MR. MACKENZIE (in English): Mr. Chairman, it, in fact, is totally isolated, surrounded on three sides by fast-moving traffic.

MR. LO (in English): Mr. Chairman, it is separated certainly from the rest of Victoria Park by roads, but it is considered part of the whole Park itself.

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Page 42 of 135 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL Far too much time and resources have to be devoted to trying to control their health conditions, and the Urban Council has long since taken the view that pig-breeding should not be allowed in the urban areas. But action here and the legal responsibility rests with the Government, not with the Urban Council. I understand that, whereas there is general agreement on the need to prohibit pig-breeding in the urban areas, difficulty arises in amending the law and in carrying out the necessary clearances without causing hardship. But there don't appear to be insoluble problems and I will arrange for the Director of Urban Services to pursue the matter with the Government. MR. MACKENZIE (in English): Mr. Chairman, in pursuing the Council's policy of aiding and encouraging the removal of pig-breeding from the urban areas, may I ask if there is any regular liaison or communication with the Agriculture and Fisheries Department or are we working purely on an ad hoc basis? DR. HU (in English): I don't know exactly, Mr. Chairman, but so far as I know, it is on an ad hoc basis. DR. DENNY M. H. HUANG (in Cantonese): Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask Dr. Hu, is he also concerned about those citizens who are living by the pig-breeders in Kowloon and will they be treated exactly the same as those in Tin Hau Temple Road? In the past, we discussed pig-breeding in urban areas and our past policy seemed to be that, unless we need the area to be used for re-development, there would be no action taken. I don't know whether the present policy is the same as that in the past. DR. HU (in English): Mr. Chairman, I understand that Dr. Denny HUANG did raise this question sometime ago about the pig-breeding in Kowloon Tong. And since then, I understand that the Department has paid constant attention to that area. So I understand that that area is probably becoming better than before. About the policy of pig-breeding, I understand that it has always been considered undesirable to have pig-breeding in urban areas, but as I have already said in my answer to the question that to clear the pig sites quickly would cause a great deal of hardship, so we always take the balanced view on this matter when we carry out our policy. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL (2) MR. JOHN MACKENZIE asked the following question (in English): Since I last raised the matter in November 1975, what progress has been made in developing the waste-land at the north-west corner of Victoria Park for public recreational use? What amenities are planned, and when will the area be opened to the public? MR. KENNETH T. C. LO, CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION AND AMENITIES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows (in English): Mr. Chairman, Mr. MACKENZIE will recall that, in my reply to his similar question in November 1975, I stated that the land at the north-west corner of Victoria Park was going to be developed into a garden and children's playground with funds from the Urban Amenities Block Vote and a donation of $60,000 from the Lions Club of Bayview towards the provision of children's play equipment. Work on this project started in June and is due for completion this month. The children's play equipment has already been installed and planting is in progress. It is hoped that this garden will be available for public enjoyment by the end of the month. MR. JOHN MACKENZIE (in English): Mr. Chairman, may I enquire of the total cost of the construction now under way? MR. LO (in English): Mr. Chairman, I understand the original estimate was $310,000 and now it is going to cost $275,000. That of course excludes a donation of $60,000 from the Lions Club. MR. MACKENZIE (in English): Mr. Chairman, it appears to me that a rather pleasant small green patch had been converted into a concrete and steel construction, may I ask, following your own comments earlier, whether a "proper total planning" has been applied in the development of Victoria Park, or is this another ad hoc development? MR. LO (in English): Mr. Chairman, this is part of a larger scheme of improvement to Victoria Park. There will be grass areas in the Park itself. This is not an isolated recreational ground by itself. MR. MACKENZIE (in English): Mr. Chairman, it, in fact, is totally isolated, surrounded on three sides by fast-moving traffic. MR. LO (in English): Mr. Chairman, it is separated certainly from the rest of Victoria Park by roads, but it is considered part of the whole Park itself. Page 42 of 135

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Page 42 of 135 1 50 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL Far too much time and resources have to be devoted to trying to control their health conditions, and the Urban Council has long since taken the view that pig-breeding should not be allowed in the urban areas. But action here and the legal responsibility rests with the Govern- ment, not with the Urban Council. I understand that, whereas there is general agreement on the need to prohibit pig-breeding in the urban areas, difficulty arises in amend- ing the law and in carrying out the necessary clearances without causing hardship. But there don't appear to be insoluble problems and I will arrange for the Director of Urban Services to pursue the matter with the Govern- ment. MR. MACKENZIE (in English):-Mr. Chairman, in pursuing the Council's policy of aiding and encouraging the removal of pig-breeding from the urban areas, may I ask if there is any regular liaison or communication with the Agriculture and Fisheries Department or are we working purely on an ad hoc basis? DR. HU (in English):--I don't know exactly, Mr. Chairman, but so far as I know, it is on an ad hoc basis. DR. DENNY M. H. HUANG (in Cantonese): -Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask Dr. Hu, is he also concerned about those citizens who are living by the pig-breeders in Kowloon and will they be treated exactly the same as those in Tin Hau Temple Road? In the past, we discussed pig-breeding in urban areas and our past policy seemed to be that, unless we need the area to be used for re-development, there would be no action taken. I don't know whether the present policy is the same as that in the past. DR. HU (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I understand that Dr. Denny HUANG did raise this question sometime ago about the pig-breeding in Kowloon Tong. And since then, I understand that the Department has paid constant attention to that area. So I understand that that area is probably becoming better than before. About the policy of pig-breeding, I understand that it has always been considered undesirable to have pig-breeding in urban areas, but as I have already said in my answer to the question that to clear the pig sites quickly would cause a great deal of hardship, so we always take the balanced view on this matter when we carry out our policy. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 51 (2) MR. JOHN MACKENZIE asked the following question (in English):- Since I last raised the matter in November 1975, what progress has been made in developing the waste-land at the north- west corner of Victoria Park for public recreational use? What amenities are planned, and when will the area be opened to the public? MR. KENNETH T. C. Lo, CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION AND AMENITIES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows (in English):- Mr. Chairman, Mr. MACKENZIE will recall that, in my reply to his similar question in November 1975, I stated that the land at the north-west corner of Victoria Park was going to be developed into a garden and children's play- ground with funds from the Urban Amenities Block Vote and a donation of $60,000 from the Lions Club of Bay- view towards the provision of children's play equipment. Work on this project started in June and is due for completion this month. The children's play equipment has already been installed and planting is in progress. It is hoped that this garden will be available for public enjoyment by the end of the month. MR. JOHN MACKENZIE (in English): -Mr. Chairman, may I enquire of the total cost of the construction now under way? MR. Lo (in English): Mr. Chairman, I understand the original estimate was $310,000 and now it is going to cost $275,000. That of course excludes a donation of $60,000 from the Lions Club. MR. MACKENZIE (in English):—Mr. Chairman, it appears to me that a rather pleasant small green patch had been converted into a concrete and steel construction, may I ask, following your own com- ments earlier, whether a "proper total planning" has been applied in the development of Victoria Park, or is this another ad hoc development? MR. Lo (in English):-Mr. Chairman, this is part of a larger scheme of improvement to Victoria Park. There will be grass areas in the Park itself. This is not an isolated recreational ground by itself. MR. MACKENZIE (in English): -Mr. Chairman, it, in fact, is totally isolated, surrounded on three sides by fast-moving traffic. MR. Lo (in English):-Mr. Chairman, it is separated certainly from the rest of Victoria Park by roads, but it is considered part of the whole Park itself.

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Far too much time and resources have to be devoted to trying to control their health conditions, and the Urban Council has long since taken the view that pig-breeding should not be allowed in the urban areas. But action here and the legal responsibility rests with the Govern- ment, not with the Urban Council. I understand that, whereas there is general agreement on the need to prohibit pig-breeding in the urban areas, difficulty arises in amend- ing the law and in carrying out the necessary clearances without causing hardship. But there don't appear to be insoluble problems and I will arrange for the Director of Urban Services to pursue the matter with the Govern-

ment.

MR. MACKENZIE (in English):-Mr. Chairman, in pursuing the Council's policy of aiding and encouraging the removal of pig-breeding from the urban areas, may I ask if there is any regular liaison or communication with the Agriculture and Fisheries Department or are we working purely on an ad hoc basis?

DR. HU (in English):--I don't know exactly, Mr. Chairman, but so far as I know, it is on an ad hoc basis.

DR. DENNY M. H. HUANG (in Cantonese): -Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask Dr. Hu, is he also concerned about those citizens who are living by the pig-breeders in Kowloon and will they be treated exactly the same as those in Tin Hau Temple Road? In the past, we discussed pig-breeding in urban areas and our past policy seemed to be that, unless we need the area to be used for re-development, there would be no action taken. I don't know whether the present policy is the same as that in the past.

DR. HU (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I understand that Dr. Denny HUANG did raise this question sometime ago about the pig-breeding in Kowloon Tong. And since then, I understand that the Department has paid constant attention to that area. So I understand that that area is probably becoming better than before. About the policy of pig-breeding, I understand that it has always been considered undesirable to have pig-breeding in urban areas, but as I have already said in my answer to the question that to clear the pig sites quickly would cause a great deal of hardship, so we always take the balanced view on this matter when we carry out our policy.

HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

(2) MR. JOHN MACKENZIE asked the following question (in English):-

Since I last raised the matter in November 1975, what progress has been made in developing the waste-land at the north- west corner of Victoria Park for public recreational use? What amenities are planned, and when will the area be opened to the public?

MR. KENNETH T. C. Lo, CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION AND AMENITIES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows (in English):-

Mr. Chairman, Mr. MACKENZIE will recall that, in my reply to his similar question in November 1975, I stated that the land at the north-west corner of Victoria Park was going to be developed into a garden and children's play- ground with funds from the Urban Amenities Block Vote and a donation of $60,000 from the Lions Club of Bay- view towards the provision of children's play equipment. Work on this project started in June and is due for completion this month. The children's play equipment has already been installed and planting is in progress. It is hoped that this garden will be available for public enjoyment by the end of the month.

MR. JOHN MACKENZIE (in English): -Mr. Chairman, may I enquire of the total cost of the construction now under way?

MR. Lo (in English): Mr. Chairman, I understand the original estimate was $310,000 and now it is going to cost $275,000. That of course excludes a donation of $60,000 from the Lions Club.

MR. MACKENZIE (in English):—Mr. Chairman, it appears to me that a rather pleasant small green patch had been converted into a concrete and steel construction, may I ask, following your own com- ments earlier, whether a "proper total planning" has been applied in the development of Victoria Park, or is this another ad hoc development?

MR. Lo (in English):-Mr. Chairman, this is part of a larger scheme of improvement to Victoria Park. There will be grass areas in the Park itself. This is not an isolated recreational ground by itself.

MR. MACKENZIE (in English): -Mr. Chairman, it, in fact, is totally isolated, surrounded on three sides by fast-moving traffic.

MR. Lo (in English):-Mr. Chairman, it is separated certainly from the rest of Victoria Park by roads, but it is considered part of the whole Park itself.

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