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In future, the Select Committee will also do its best to see that effective use is made of all market stalls for retail trade. This includes stalls in awkward and unpopular corners, stalls being used for wholesale business, for offices, for storage and stalls being leased, but left unoccupied. By being rather tougher in this respect, the result should be more attractive markets and an improved selection of goods for the housewife.

Regarding abattoir operations, there have been obvious improvements during the past year. More modern production techniques will continue to be employed in our by-products plant and abattoirs. Our third pig dressing line at Cheung Sha Wan came into operation in the middle of last year, providing "quivering" meat to the trade and the consumers in adequate quantities at the right time, and delivered in the right manner and more efficiently. Operating a night shift for pig slaughtering at Kennedy Town and early morning slaughter of cattle at Cheung Sha Wan during the past year has been well rewarded by the trade's agreement to higher slaughtering fees for these services. The employment of private meat delivery services in Kowloon has proved to be a money saver, and so has the local in-service training of meat inspectors. All these are the results of employing commercial methods and modern management techniques in this important field of public service. Although our financial position in this field is improving slightly, the Council is still operating at a substantial deficit. We are negotiating with the trade for an acceptable formula for reducing this deficit.

I now take the liberty of making some remarks on other aspects of Council work. In commercial and industrial operations, the easiest way to maintain financial control is to be a little bit generous in preparing the budget by ensuring that adequate supervision will be provided before making actual expenditure. Yet at the time of actual spending, it is emphasized that money is already available. Therefore, it is always safer to be very strict in preparing the budget even at the risk of necessarily revising it a few times afterwards.

In the City Hall, it is a wise move to alter one lecture room to turn it into a chamber music hall. Do members think that it is a good move too to convert part of the exhibition hall (which is generally too big and has lower occupancy rates) into committee rooms? If it is converted into a theatre, it will surely bring more revenue, if architecturally possible.

Regarding the hawkers problem, it is not now a problem involving the relief of poverty—it is now a drain on our industrial manpower and a subsidy to the strong arm men. Perhaps the long-awaited survey of hawkers should be assisted by computers, which, if suitably programmed, must be able to supply the required data and information at any time, in any form, for any of our decision-making processes.

Mr. Chairman, may I support the motion before Council.

(Mr. Edmund W. H. CHOW and Dr. Denny M. H. HUANG left the meeting at this point.)

MR. PETER C. K. CHAN (in Cantonese): — Mr. Chairman, today, I would like to discuss a very serious social problem before us. It is about the well-known fact that the organization of the triad societies is growing and their activities are getting increasingly rampant. We are most concerned about this matter, and an immense doubt lurks in our mind. As an old saying goes, "we dare not hold back anything which we consider may constitute a danger". While the Council has been vigorously promoting the recreational activities for the youth, we wonder whether these activities have been encroached upon stealthily by the triad elements. I am most concerned with this issue. In fact, after making investigations on my own, I firmly believe that it is an indisputable fact that these activities have been affected in one way or another.

I remember that several weeks ago, when Mr. Chairman delivered a speech on the achievements of the Urban Council in the past year, you pointed out, "The Council provides a great number of recreational activities in the densely populated areas so that there are entertaining and educational activities held at all times and places in Hong Kong, and the young people may have more opportunities to participate in sports that form a part of their moral training". This is true indeed, but have we considered that there are many young people in all walks of life who are coerced into doing evil, underhand jobs? Are we aware that the recreational activities organized in the community centres, especially those in the public housing estates, are sometimes infiltrated by triad elements who seize the chance to make acquaintance with the good young people in an attempt to force them to join their societies? Do we know that as there is such a case in the community recreation centres, some parents dare not let their children participate in these recreational activities?

I believe that the instructors working at recreation centres in the public housing estates and other social workers cannot absolutely deny the existence of triad elements in the centres. So far as I know, even the instructors are aware that among the participating youths,

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Page 111 of 154 189 188 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL In future, the Select Committee will also do its best to see that effective use is made of all market stalls for retail trade. This includes stalls in awkward and unpopular corners, stalls being used for wholesale business, for offices, for storage and stalls being leased, but left unoccupied. By being rather tougher in this respect, the result should be more attractive markets and an improved selection of goods for the housewife. Regarding abattoir operations, there have been obvious improvements during the past year. More modern production techniques will continue to be employed in our by-products plant and abattoirs. Our third pig dressing line at Cheung Sha Wan came into operation in the middle of last year, providing "quivering" meat to the trade and the consumers in adequate quantities at the right time, and delivered in the right manner and more efficiently. Operating a night shift for pig slaughtering at Kennedy Town and early morning slaughter of cattle at Cheung Sha Wan during the past year has been well rewarded by the trade's agreement to higher slaughtering fees for these services. The employment of private meat delivery services in Kowloon has proved to be a money saver, and so has the local in-service training of meat inspectors. All these are the results of employing commercial methods and modern management techniques in this important field of public service. Although our financial position in this field is improving slightly, the Council is still operating at a substantial deficit. We are negotiating with the trade for an acceptable formula for reducing this deficit. I now take the liberty of making some remarks on other aspects of Council work. In commercial and industrial operations, the easiest way to maintain financial control is to be a little bit generous in preparing the budget by ensuring that adequate supervision will be provided before making actual expenditure. Yet at the time of actual spending, it is emphasized that money is already available. Therefore, it is always safer to be very strict in preparing the budget even at the risk of necessarily revising it a few times afterwards. In the City Hall, it is a wise move to alter one lecture room to turn it into a chamber music hall. Do members think that it is a good move too to convert part of the exhibition hall (which is generally too big and has lower occupancy rates) into committee rooms? If it is converted into a theatre, it will surely bring more revenue, if architecturally possible. Regarding the hawkers problem, it is not now a problem involving the relief of poverty—it is now a drain on our industrial manpower and a subsidy to the strong arm men. Perhaps the long-awaited survey of hawkers should be assisted by computers, which, if suitably programmed, must be able to supply the required data and information at any time, in any form, for any of our decision-making processes. Mr. Chairman, may I support the motion before Council. (Mr. Edmund W. H. CHOW and Dr. Denny M. H. HUANG left the meeting at this point.) MR. PETER C. K. CHAN (in Cantonese): — Mr. Chairman, today, I would like to discuss a very serious social problem before us. It is about the well-known fact that the organization of the triad societies is growing and their activities are getting increasingly rampant. We are most concerned about this matter, and an immense doubt lurks in our mind. As an old saying goes, "we dare not hold back anything which we consider may constitute a danger". While the Council has been vigorously promoting the recreational activities for the youth, we wonder whether these activities have been encroached upon stealthily by the triad elements. I am most concerned with this issue. In fact, after making investigations on my own, I firmly believe that it is an indisputable fact that these activities have been affected in one way or another. I remember that several weeks ago, when Mr. Chairman delivered a speech on the achievements of the Urban Council in the past year, you pointed out, "The Council provides a great number of recreational activities in the densely populated areas so that there are entertaining and educational activities held at all times and places in Hong Kong, and the young people may have more opportunities to participate in sports that form a part of their moral training". This is true indeed, but have we considered that there are many young people in all walks of life who are coerced into doing evil, underhand jobs? Are we aware that the recreational activities organized in the community centres, especially those in the public housing estates, are sometimes infiltrated by triad elements who seize the chance to make acquaintance with the good young people in an attempt to force them to join their societies? Do we know that as there is such a case in the community recreation centres, some parents dare not let their children participate in these recreational activities? I believe that the instructors working at recreation centres in the public housing estates and other social workers cannot absolutely deny the existence of triad elements in the centres. So far as I know, even the instructors are aware that among the participating youths, Page 112 of 154 190 191

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Page 111 of 154 189 188 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL In future, the Select Committee will also do its best to see that effective use is made of all market stalls for retail trade. This includes stalls in awkward and unpopular corners, stalls being used for wholesale business, for offices, for storage and stalls being leased, but left unoccupied. By being rather tougher in this respect, the result should be more attractive markets and an improved selection of goods for the housewife. Regarding abattoir operations, there have been obvious improve- ments during the past year-More modern production techniques will continue to be employed in our by-products plant and abattoirs. Our third pig dressing line at Cheung Sha Wan came into operation in the middle of last year, providing "quivering" meat to the trade and the consumers in adequate quantities at the right time, and delivered in the right manner and more efficiently. Operating a night shift for pig slaughtering at Kennedy Town and early morning slaughter of cattle at Cheung Sha Wan during the past year has been well rewarded by the trade's agreement to higher slaughtering fees for these services. The employment of private meat delivery services in Kowloon has proved to be a money saver, and so has the local in-service training of meat inspectors. All these are the results of employing commercial methods and modern management techniques in this important field of public service. Although our financial position in this field is improving slightly, the Council is still operating at a substantial deficit. We are negotiating with the trade for an acceptable formula for reducing this deficit. I now take the liberty of making some remarks on other aspects of Council work. In commercial and industrial operations, the easiest way to maintain financial control is to be a little bit generous in preparing the budget by ensuring that adequate supervision will be provided before making actual expenditure. Yet at the time of actual Therefore spending, it is emphasized that money is already available. it is always safer to be very strict in preparing the budget even at the risk of necessarily revising it a few times afterwards. In the City Hall, it is a wise move to alter one lecture room to turn it into a chamber music hall. Do members think that it is a good move too to convert part of the exhibition hall (which is generally too big and has lower occupancy rates) into committee rooms? If it is converted into a theatre, it will surely bring more revenue, if architecturally possible. Regarding the hawkers problem, it is not now a problem involving the relief of poverty-it is now a drain of our industrial manpower HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL and a subsidy to the strong arm men. Perhaps the long waited survey of hawkers should be assisted by computers, which if suitably pro- grammed, must be able to supply the required data and information at any time, in any form, for any of our decision-making processes. Mr. Chairman, may I support the motion before Council. (Mr. Edmund W. H. CHOW and Dr. Denny M. H. HUANG left the meeting at this point.) MR. PETER C. K. CHAN (in Cantonese): -Mr. Chairman, today, I would like to discuss a very serious social problem before us. It is about the well-known fact that the organization of the triad societies is growing and their activities are getting increasingly rampant. We are most concerned about this matter, and an immense doubt lurks in our mind. As an old saying goes, "we dare not hold back anything which we consider may constitute a danger". While the Council has been vigorously promoting the recreational activities for the youth, we wonder whether these activities have been encroached stealthily upon by the triad elements. I am most concerned with this issue. In fact, after making investigations on my own, I firmly believe that it is an indisputable fact that these activities have been affected in one way or another. I remember that several weeks ago, when Mr. Chairman delivered a speech on the achievements of the Urban Council in the past year, you pointed out, "The Council provides a great number of recreational activities in the densely populated areas so that there are entertaining and educational activities held at all times and places in Hong Kong, and the young people may have more opportunities to participate in sports that form a part of their moral training". This is true indeed, but have we considered that there are many young people in all walks of life who are coerced into doing evil, underhand jobs? Are we aware that the recreational activities organized in the community centres especially those in the public housing estates are sometimes infiltrated by triad elements who seize the chance to make acquaintance with the good young people in an attempt to force them to join their societies? Do we know that as there is such a case in the community recreation centres, some parents dare not let their children participates in these recreational activities? I believe that the instructors working at recreation centres in the public housing estates and other social workers cannot absolutely deny the existence of triad elements in the centres. So far as I know, even the instructors are aware that among the participating youths,

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Regarding abattoir operations, there have been obvious improve- ments during the past year-More modern production techniques will continue to be employed in our by-products plant and abattoirs. Our third pig dressing line at Cheung Sha Wan came into operation in the middle of last year, providing "quivering" meat to the trade and the consumers in adequate quantities at the right time, and delivered in the right manner and more efficiently. Operating a night shift for pig slaughtering at Kennedy Town and early morning slaughter of cattle at Cheung Sha Wan during the past year has been well rewarded by the trade's agreement to higher slaughtering fees for these services. The employment of private meat delivery services in Kowloon has proved to be a money saver, and so has the local in-service training of meat inspectors. All these are the results of employing commercial methods and modern management techniques in this important field of public service. Although our financial position in this field is improving slightly, the Council is still operating at a substantial deficit. We are negotiating with the trade for an acceptable formula for reducing this deficit.

I now take the liberty of making some remarks on other aspects of Council work. In commercial and industrial operations, the easiest way to maintain financial control is to be a little bit generous in preparing the budget by ensuring that adequate supervision will be provided before making actual expenditure. Yet at the time of actual Therefore spending, it is emphasized that money is already available.

it is always safer to be very strict in preparing the budget even at the risk of necessarily revising it a few times afterwards.

Regarding the hawkers problem, it is not now a problem involving the relief of poverty-it is now a drain of our industrial manpower

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and a subsidy to the strong arm men. Perhaps the long waited survey of hawkers should be assisted by computers, which if suitably pro- grammed, must be able to supply the required data and information at any time, in any form, for any of our decision-making processes.

Mr. Chairman, may I support the motion before Council.

(Mr. Edmund W. H. CHOW and Dr. Denny M. H. HUANG left the meeting at this point.)

MR. PETER C. K. CHAN (in Cantonese): -Mr. Chairman, today, I would like to discuss a very serious social problem before us. It is about the well-known fact that the organization of the triad societies is growing and their activities are getting increasingly rampant. We are most concerned about this matter, and an immense doubt lurks in our mind. As an old saying goes, "we dare not hold back anything which we consider may constitute a danger". While the Council has been vigorously promoting the recreational activities for the youth, we wonder whether these activities have been encroached stealthily upon by the triad elements. I am most concerned with this issue. In fact, after making investigations on my own, I firmly believe that it is an indisputable fact that these activities have been affected in one way or another.

I remember that several weeks ago, when Mr. Chairman delivered a speech on the achievements of the Urban Council in the past year, you pointed out, "The Council provides a great number of recreational activities in the densely populated areas so that there are entertaining and educational activities held at all times and places in Hong Kong, and the young people may have more opportunities to participate in sports that form a part of their moral training". This is true indeed, but have we considered that there are many young people in all walks of life who are coerced into doing evil, underhand jobs? Are we aware that the recreational activities organized in the community centres especially those in the public housing estates are sometimes infiltrated by triad elements who seize the chance to make acquaintance with the good young people in an attempt to force them to join their societies? Do we know that as there is such a case in the community recreation centres, some parents dare not let their children participates in these recreational activities?

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