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CHAIRMAN:---Mr. SALES, are you asking a supplementary?

MR. SALES: ---I am, would you please enlighten us on this area in particular, such is the need for open space in the highly populated Western district? Could you say whether any land has been reserved for this purpose?

CHAIRMAN:----There are certain projects coming up in Western district, but we say we want them at sea-level and this will depend on the reclamation. I cannot say any more than that Mr. Sales.

MR. SALES: -You have not enquired of the Director of Public Works as to how much land would be reserved in the reclamation?

CHAIRMAN:-No, because I think they have said that the size of the reclamation has not yet been decided.

MR. SALES: --Have you, Mr. Chairman, been able to secure any agreement from the central government as to the allocation of open space on that reclamation when it eventuates.

CHAIRMAN:-No, Mr. SALES.

MR. SALES: -Would you do that in the ensuing months?

CHAIRMAN:-I shall enquire whether it can be done, Mr. Sales.

MR. SALES: Before you go on holiday?

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Also before Mr. SALES goes to Munich.

MR. SALES: The Commissioner for Resettlement would like you to clarify the meaning of the term "Central Government", Mr. Chairman.

(2) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:---

Has the Government approved the purchase of a portable stage to enable the Council to present public entertainment programmes in districts now without physical facilities for such purpose?

MR. KENNETH T. C. Lo, CHAIRMAN OF THE CULTURAL AFFAIRS SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:-

This question concerns the purchase of a mobile stage for the Council's public entertainment programmes outdoors.

At the Council's meeting in March this year, Mr. SALES asked a question on the same subject. The Chairman replied

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and said that the proposal would be considered in the light of a comparison of the costs involved in the temporary arrangements made at present and a further examination of the most suitable size of the mobile centre. Further study has revealed that the proposed mobile stage will not entirely replace the temporary arrangements now in use. Many of the current outdoor productions require a stage area larger than that provided by a mobile stage easily transportable on many of our narrow and winding roads.

The proposed mobile stage will therefore have to be justified entirely on its own merits and it is thought desirable that this proposal be further examined by the select committees concerned. A detailed paper will therefore be prepared

for their consideration shortly.

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, as a former Chairman of the Cultural Affairs Select Committee, then the City Hall Select Committee, may I suggest that most of the answer was known to the Select Committee. The attempt, not by my Friend Mr. Kenneth Lo, but by the departmental staff responsible for drafting the answer is indeed pulling the wool over our eyes. Could I suggest that much of what is said here is already known to the Urban Council and we want the Government to get on with the job, Mr. Chairman. Would you please convey that to the Central Government?

CHAIRMAN:-I shall pass a copy of the minutes to the Secretariat.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN: -Mr. Chairman, does the Chairman of the Select Committee have any idea where the mobile stage, when and if it is completed, will operate. Will it only be in the urban areas or will it be outside the urban areas as well?

MR. T. C. Lo:-Well, as it is mobile, it can go anywhere.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-I think the Chairman missed the point of my question. I thought I made it plain that I was interested in knowing whether it would operate outside the urban areas as well, that is in the New Territories?

MR. T. C. Lo:--I should hope that would be the case.

(3) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:-

Will the Commissioner for Resettlement please state how many persons were accommodated in resettlement units in

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Page 70 of 206 120 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL CHAIRMAN:---Mr. SALES, are you asking a supplementary? MR. SALES: ---I am, would you please enlighten us on this area in particular, such is the need for open space in the highly populated Western district? Could you say whether any land has been reserved for this purpose? CHAIRMAN:----There are certain projects coming up in Western district, but we say we want them at sea-level and this will depend on the reclamation. I cannot say any more than that Mr. Sales. MR. SALES: -You have not enquired of the Director of Public Works as to how much land would be reserved in the reclamation? CHAIRMAN:-No, because I think they have said that the size of the reclamation has not yet been decided. MR. SALES: --Have you, Mr. Chairman, been able to secure any agreement from the central government as to the allocation of open space on that reclamation when it eventuates. CHAIRMAN:-No, Mr. SALES. MR. SALES: -Would you do that in the ensuing months? CHAIRMAN:-I shall enquire whether it can be done, Mr. Sales. MR. SALES: Before you go on holiday? MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Also before Mr. SALES goes to Munich. MR. SALES: The Commissioner for Resettlement would like you to clarify the meaning of the term "Central Government", Mr. Chairman. (2) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:--- Has the Government approved the purchase of a portable stage to enable the Council to present public entertainment programmes in districts now without physical facilities for such purpose? MR. KENNETH T. C. Lo, CHAIRMAN OF THE CULTURAL AFFAIRS SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:- This question concerns the purchase of a mobile stage for the Council's public entertainment programmes outdoors. At the Council's meeting in March this year, Mr. SALES asked a question on the same subject. The Chairman replied HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 121 and said that the proposal would be considered in the light of a comparison of the costs involved in the temporary arrangements made at present and a further examination of the most suitable size of the mobile centre. Further study has revealed that the proposed mobile stage will not entirely replace the temporary arrangements now in use. Many of the current outdoor productions require a stage area larger than that provided by a mobile stage easily transportable on many of our narrow and winding roads. The proposed mobile stage will therefore have to be justified entirely on its own merits and it is thought desirable that this proposal be further examined by the select committees concerned. A detailed paper will therefore be prepared for their consideration shortly. MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, as a former Chairman of the Cultural Affairs Select Committee, then the City Hall Select Committee, may I suggest that most of the answer was known to the Select Committee. The attempt, not by my Friend Mr. Kenneth Lo, but by the departmental staff responsible for drafting the answer is indeed pulling the wool over our eyes. Could I suggest that much of what is said here is already known to the Urban Council and we want the Government to get on with the job, Mr. Chairman. Would you please convey that to the Central Government? CHAIRMAN:-I shall pass a copy of the minutes to the Secretariat. MR. CHEONG-LEEN: -Mr. Chairman, does the Chairman of the Select Committee have any idea where the mobile stage, when and if it is completed, will operate. Will it only be in the urban areas or will it be outside the urban areas as well? MR. T. C. Lo:-Well, as it is mobile, it can go anywhere. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-I think the Chairman missed the point of my question. I thought I made it plain that I was interested in knowing whether it would operate outside the urban areas as well, that is in the New Territories? MR. T. C. Lo:--I should hope that would be the case. (3) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:- Will the Commissioner for Resettlement please state how many persons were accommodated in resettlement units in Page 70 Page 71 Page 71 of 206
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Page 70 of 206 120 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL CHAIRMAN:---Mr. SALES, are you asking a supplementary? MR. SALES: ---I am, would you please enlighten us on this area in particular, such is the need for open space in the highly populated Western district? Could you say whether any land has been reserved for this purpose? CHAIRMAN:----There are certain projects coming up in Western district, but we say we want them at sea-level and this will depend on the reclamation. I cannot say any more than that Mr. Sales. MR. SALES: -You have not enquired of the Director of Public Works as to how much land would be reserved in the reclamation? CHAIRMAN:-No, because I think they have said that the size the reclamation has not yet been decided. MR. SALES: --Have you, Mr. Chairman, been able to secure any agreement from the central government as to the allocation of open space on that reclamation when it eventuates. CHAIRMAN:-No, Mr. SALES. MR. SALES: -Would you do that in the ensuing months? CHAIRMAN:-I shall enquire whether it can be done, Mr. Sales. MR. SALES: Before you go on holiday? MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Also before Mr. SALES goes to Munich. MR. SALES: The Commissioner for Resettlement would like you to clarify the meaning of the term "Central Government", Mr. Chairman. (2) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:--- Has the Government approved the purchase of a portable stage to enable the Council to present public entertainment programmes in districts now without physical facilities for such purpose? MR. KENNETH T. C. Lo, CHAIRMAN OF THE CULTURAL AFFAIRS SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:- This question concerns the purchase of a mobile stage for the Council's public entertainment programmes outdoors. At the Council's meeting in March this year, Mr. SALES asked a question on the same subject. The Chairman replied HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 121 and said that the proposal would be considered in the light of a comparison of the costs involved in the temporary arrangements made at present and a further examination of the most suitable size of the mobile centre. Further study has revealed that the proposed mobile stage will not entirely replace the temporary arrangements now in use. Many of the current outdoor productions require a stage area larger than that provided by a mobile stage easily transportable on many of our narrow and winding roads. The proposed mobile stage will therefore have to be justified entirely on its own merits and it is thought desirable that this proposal be further examined by the select committees concerned. A detailed paper will therefore be prepared for their consideration shortly. MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, as a former Chairman of the Cultural Affairs Select Committee, then the City Hall Select Committee, may I suggest that most of the answer was known to the Select Committee. The attempt, not by my Friend Mr. Kenneth Lo, but by the departmental staff responsible for drafting the answer is indeed pulling the wool over our eyes. Could I suggest that much of what is said here is already known to the Urban Council and we want the Government to get on with the job, Mr. Chairman. Would you please convey that to the Central Government? CHAIRMAN:-I shall pass a copy of the minutes to the Secretariat. MR. CHEONG-LEEN: -Mr. Chairman, does the Chairman of the Select Committee have any idea where the mobile stage, when and if it is completed, will operate. Will it only be in the urban areas or will it be outside the urban areas as well? MR. T. C. Lo:-Well, as it is mobile, it can go anywhere. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-I think the Chairman missed the point of my question. I thought I made it plain that I was interested in knowing whether it would operate outside the urban areas as well, that is in the New Territories? MR. T. C. Lo:--I should hope that would be the case. (3) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:- Will the Commissioner for Resettlement please state how many persons were accommodated in resettlement units in Page 70Page 71 Page 71 of 2
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CHAIRMAN:---Mr. SALES, are you asking a supplementary?

MR. SALES: ---I am, would you please enlighten us on this area in particular, such is the need for open space in the highly populated Western district? Could you say whether any land has been reserved for this purpose?

CHAIRMAN:----There are certain projects coming up in Western district, but we say we want them at sea-level and this will depend on the reclamation. I cannot say any more than that Mr. Sales.

MR. SALES: -You have not enquired of the Director of Public Works as to how much land would be reserved in the reclamation?

CHAIRMAN:-No, because I think they have said that the size the reclamation has not yet been decided.

MR. SALES: --Have you, Mr. Chairman, been able to secure any agreement from the central government as to the allocation of open space on that reclamation when it eventuates.

CHAIRMAN:-No, Mr. SALES.

MR. SALES: -Would you do that in the ensuing months?

CHAIRMAN:-I shall enquire whether it can be done, Mr. Sales.

MR. SALES: Before you go on holiday?

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Also before Mr. SALES goes to Munich.

MR. SALES: The Commissioner for Resettlement would like you to clarify the meaning of the term "Central Government", Mr. Chairman.

(2) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:---

Has the Government approved the purchase of a portable stage to enable the Council to present public entertainment programmes in districts now without physical facilities for such purpose?

MR. KENNETH T. C. Lo, CHAIRMAN OF THE CULTURAL AFFAIRS SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:-

This question concerns the purchase of a mobile stage for the

Council's public entertainment programmes outdoors.

At the Council's meeting in March this year, Mr. SALES asked a question on the same subject. The Chairman replied

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and said that the proposal would be considered in the light of a comparison of the costs involved in the temporary arrangements made at present and a further examination of the most suitable size of the mobile centre. Further study has revealed that the proposed mobile stage will not entirely replace the temporary arrangements now in use. Many of the current outdoor productions require a stage area larger than that provided by a mobile stage easily transportable on many of our narrow and winding roads.

The proposed mobile stage will therefore have to be justified entirely on its own merits and it is thought desirable that this proposal be further examined by the select committees concerned. A detailed paper will therefore be prepared

for their consideration shortly.

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, as a former Chairman of the Cultural Affairs Select Committee, then the City Hall Select Committee, may I suggest that most of the answer was known to the Select Committee. The attempt, not by my Friend Mr. Kenneth Lo, but by the departmental staff responsible for drafting the answer is indeed pulling the wool over our eyes. Could I suggest that much of what is said here is already known to the Urban Council and we want the Government to get on with the job, Mr. Chairman. Would you please convey that to the Central Government?

CHAIRMAN:-I shall pass a copy of the minutes to the Secretariat. MR. CHEONG-LEEN: -Mr. Chairman, does the Chairman of the Select Committee have any idea where the mobile stage, when and if it is completed, will operate. Will it only be in the urban areas or will it be outside the urban areas as well?

MR. T. C. Lo:-Well, as it is mobile, it can go anywhere.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-I think the Chairman missed the point of my question. I thought I made it plain that I was interested in knowing whether it would operate outside the urban areas as well, that is in the New Territories?

MR. T. C. Lo:--I should hope that would be the case.

(3) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:-

Will the Commissioner for Resettlement please state how many persons were accommodated in resettlement units in

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