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(b) Are there any enforced regulations against littering with unwanted items, including discarded car cleaning objects and other articles which are particularly noticeable after weekends?

(c) How often, if ever, do the staff in charge report on the conditions of these car parks and has there been any recent report on the dirty condition of the car parks?

(d) I have noticed that from time to time someone notes the licence numbers of cars in the car parks. Is this exercise arranged to determine how many cars have been left immobile for a longer than average period or for several days and is there any limit to the parking period even though the cars have valid monthly parking labels?

MR. A. de O. SALES, CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION AND AMENITIES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:-

The following are the replies to this question on Government car parks:

(a) No conditions are imposed on the supply of water from taps.

(b) The Public Cleansing and Prevention of Nuisances By-laws enable the department to prevent littering in car parks. These by-laws are enforced by the car park management staff to the extent that is possible but there is insufficient staff to detect and catch offenders in the act and so far the department has not prosecuted anyone for such offence.

(c) No formal staff reports have been received that car parks are dirty. The car park management is nevertheless aware that members of the public do leave litter in the car parks and efforts are being made to detect and prosecute offenders. Such car parks are swept and cleaned twice daily and washed down once a week.

(d) A record of cars parked overnight in the car parks is made as required by Regulation 30 of the Road Traffic (Parking and Waiting) Regulations for the purpose of issuing replacement parking tickets to car owners and drivers who claim to have lost their original tickets when they come to remove their cars. Regulation 29(5) limits the period to 7 days during which a vehicle may be left in a car park.

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Council may be interested to learn that I wrote to the department on 22nd February, 1972 asking for a review of existing regulations and procedures in the light of the experience gained since the first car park was open for public use on 2nd December, 1957 and to report to the Select Committee when ready.

MR. LOBO:-I thank Mr. SALES for his reply and I hope that his request for a review will be prepared and submitted shortly. I fail to understand how the staff cannot find people wasting water, pouring water all over the floors because I use most of the car parks and these are in a terrible condition and even last evening there were puddles of water all over the floors. Can I please ask that this be looked into as soon as possible?

MR. SALES: I'd be delighted to do that. Mr. LOBO evidently uses the wrong car park and that's the one, Mr. Chairman, under your direct supervision. The one that I supervise in Kowloon is in excellent condition.

MR. HU: Mr. Chairman, how much is the water $3 per 1,000 gallons.

MR. SALES: That question had better be put to the Financial Secretary.

MR. HU:-How much is

MR. SALES:-It is Government water and I presume that Government does not pay for consumption of water in its own premises.

MR. HU:-Well, because

CHAIRMAN:-Are you asking a supplementary, Mr. Hu?

MR. SALES: Mr. Chairman, you are so indulgent towards Mr. Hu. Can I expect that the same attention will be given to our own supplementary questions when it is our turn to just exceed the Standing Orders by a little bit?

MR. HU:-Mr. Chairman, you are always very lenient to Mr. SALES.

MR. KAN: Private car cleaners are permitted to wash their cars in the car parks. Are there any regulations to control that?

MR. SALES:-Mr. Chairman, this question is one of the reasons why I have asked for a review of the procedures and rules in our car parks because in car parks, there appears to be an increasing laxity in that regard and some form of control should be instituted.

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Page 57 of 206 94 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL car parks (b) Are there any enforced regulations against littering with unwanted items, including discarded car cleaning objects and other articles which are particularly noticeable after weekends? (c) How often, if ever, do the staff in charge report on the conditions of these car parks and has there been any recent report on the dirty condition of the car parks? (d) I have noticed that from time to time someone notes the licence numbers of cars in the car parks. Is this exercise arranged to determine how many cars have been left immobile for a longer than average period or for several days and is there any limit to the parking period even though the cars have valid monthly parking labels? MR. A. de O. SALES, CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION AND AMENITIES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:- The following are the replies to this question on Government car parks: (a) No conditions are imposed on the supply of water from taps. (b) The Public Cleansing and Prevention of Nuisances By-laws enable the department to prevent littering in car parks. These by-laws are enforced by the car park management staff to the extent that is possible but there is insufficient staff to detect and catch offenders in the act and so far the department has not prosecuted anyone for such offence. (c) No formal staff reports have been received that car parks are dirty. The car park management is nevertheless aware that members of the public do leave litter in the car parks and efforts are being made to detect and prosecute offenders. Such car parks are swept and cleaned twice daily and washed down once a week. (d) A record of cars parked overnight in the car parks is made as required by Regulation 30 of the Road Traffic (Parking and Waiting) Regulations for the purpose of issuing replacement parking tickets to car owners and drivers who claim to have lost their original tickets when they come to remove their cars. Regulation 29(5) limits the period to 7 days during which a vehicle may be left in a car park. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 95 Council may be interested to learn that I wrote to the department on 22nd February, 1972 asking for a review of existing regulations and procedures in the light of the experience gained since the first car park was open for public use on 2nd December, 1957 and to report to the Select Committee when ready. MR. LOBO:-I thank Mr. SALES for his reply and I hope that his request for a review will be prepared and submitted shortly. I fail to understand how the staff cannot find people wasting water, pouring water all over the floors because I use most of the car parks and these are in a terrible condition and even last evening there were puddles of water all over the floors. Can I please ask that this be looked into as soon as possible? MR. SALES: I'd be delighted to do that. Mr. LOBO evidently uses the wrong car park and that's the one, Mr. Chairman, under your direct supervision. The one that I supervise in Kowloon is in excellent condition. MR. HU: Mr. Chairman, how much is the water $3 per 1,000 gallons. MR. SALES: That question had better be put to the Financial Secretary. MR. HU:-How much is MR. SALES:-It is Government water and I presume that Government does not pay for consumption of water in its own premises. MR. HU:-Well, because CHAIRMAN:-Are you asking a supplementary, Mr. Hu? MR. SALES: Mr. Chairman, you are so indulgent towards Mr. Hu. Can I expect that the same attention will be given to our own supplementary questions when it is our turn to just exceed the Standing Orders by a little bit? MR. HU:-Mr. Chairman, you are always very lenient to Mr. SALES. MR. KAN: Private car cleaners are permitted to wash their cars in the car parks. Are there any regulations to control that? MR. SALES:-Mr. Chairman, this question is one of the reasons why I have asked for a review of the procedures and rules in our car parks because in car parks, there appears to be an increasing laxity in that regard and some form of control should be instituted. Page 57 of 206 94 95
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F Page 57 of 206 94 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL car parks (b) Are there any enforced regulations against littering with unwanted items, including discarded car cleaning objects and other articles which are particularly noticeable after weekends? (c) How often, if ever, do the staff in charge report on the condi tions of these car parks and has there been any recent report on the dirty condition of the car parks? (d) I have noticed that from time to time someone notes the licence numbers of cars in the car parks. Is this exercise arranged to determine how many cars have been left immobile for a longer than average period or for several days and is there any limit to the parking period even though the cars have valid monthly parking labels? MR. A. de O. SALES, CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION AND AMENITIES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:- The following are the replies to this question on Government car parks: (a) No conditions are imposed on the supply of water from taps. (b) The Public Cleansing and Prevention of Nuisances By-laws enable the department to prevent littering in car parks. These by-laws are enforced by the car park management staff to the extent that is possible but there is insufficient staff to detect and catch off- enders in the act and so far the department has not prosecuted anyone for such offence. (c) No formal staff reports have been received that car parks are dirty. The car park management is nev- ertheless aware that members of the public do leave litter in the car parks and efforts are being made to detect and prosecute offenders. Such car parks are swept and cleaned twice daily and washed down once a week. (d) A record of cars parked overnight in the car parks is made as required by Regulation 30 of the Road Traffic (Parking and Waiting) Regulations for the purpose of issuing replacement parking tickets to car owners and drivers who claim to have lost their original tickets when they come to remove their cars. Regulation 29(5) limits the period to 7 days during which a vehicle may be left in a car park. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 95 Council may be interested to learn that I wrote to the depart- ment on 22nd February, 1972 asking for a review of existing regulations and procedures in the light of the experience gained since the first car park was open for public use on 2nd December, 1957 and to report to the Select Committee when ready. MR. LOBO:-I thank Mr. SALES for his reply and I hope that his My request for a review will be prepared and submitted shortly. question is I fail to understand how the staff cannot find people wasting water, pouring water all over the floors because I use most of the car parks and these are in a terrible condition and even last evening there were puddles of water all over the floors. Can I please ask that this be looked into as soon as possible? MR. SALES: I'd be delighted to do that. Mr. LOBO evidently uses the wrong car park and that's the one Mr. Chairman under your direct supervision. The one that I supervise in Kowloon is in excellent condition. MR. HU: Mr. Chairman, how much is the water $3 per 1,000 gallons. MR. SALES: That question had better be put to the Financial Secretary. MR. HU:-How much is MR. SALES: -It is Government water and I presume that Govern- ment does not pay for consumption of water in its own premises. MR. HU:-Well, because CHAIRMAN:-Are you asking a supplementary, Mr. Hu? MR. SALES: Mr. Chairman, you are so indulgent towards Mr. Hu. Can I expect that the same attention will be given to our own sup- plementary questions when it is our turn to just exceed the Standing Orders by a little bit? MR. HU:-Mr. Chairman, you are always very lenient to Mr. SALES. MR. KAN: Private car cleaners are permitted to wash their cars in the car parks. Are there any regulations to control that? MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, this question is one of the reasons why I have asked for a review of the procedures and rules in our car parks because in car parks, there appears to be an increasing laxity in that regard and some form of control should be instituted.
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(b) Are there any enforced regulations against littering

with unwanted items, including discarded car cleaning objects and other articles which are particularly noticeable after

weekends?

(c) How often, if ever, do the staff in charge report on the condi

tions of these car parks and has there been any recent report on the dirty condition of the car parks?

(d) I have noticed that from time to time someone notes the licence numbers of cars in the car parks. Is this exercise arranged to determine how many cars have been left immobile for a longer than average period or for several days and is there any limit to the parking period even though the cars have valid monthly parking labels?

MR. A. de O. SALES, CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION AND AMENITIES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:-

The following are the replies to this question on Government

car parks:

(a) No conditions are imposed on the supply of water

from taps.

(b) The Public Cleansing and Prevention of Nuisances By-laws enable the department to prevent littering in car parks. These by-laws are enforced by the car park management staff to the extent that is possible but there is insufficient staff to detect and catch off- enders in the act and so far the department has not prosecuted anyone for such offence.

(c) No formal staff reports have been received that car parks are dirty. The car park management is nev- ertheless aware that members of the public do leave litter in the car parks and efforts are being made to detect and prosecute offenders. Such car parks are swept and cleaned twice daily and washed down once a week.

(d) A record of cars parked overnight in the car parks is made as required by Regulation 30 of the Road Traffic (Parking and Waiting) Regulations for the purpose of issuing replacement parking tickets to car owners and drivers who claim to have lost their original tickets when they come to remove their cars. Regulation 29(5) limits the period to 7 days during which a vehicle may be left in a car park.

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Council may be interested to learn that I wrote to the depart- ment on 22nd February, 1972 asking for a review of existing regulations and procedures in the light of the experience gained since the first car park was open for public use on 2nd December, 1957 and to report to the Select Committee when ready.

MR. LOBO:-I thank Mr. SALES for his reply and I hope that his My request for a review will be prepared and submitted shortly. question is I fail to understand how the staff cannot find people wasting water, pouring water all over the floors because I use most of the car parks and these are in a terrible condition and even last evening there were puddles of water all over the floors. Can I please ask that this be looked into as soon as possible?

MR. SALES: I'd be delighted to do that. Mr. LOBO evidently uses the wrong car park and that's the one Mr. Chairman under your direct supervision. The one that I supervise in Kowloon is in excellent condition.

MR. HU: Mr. Chairman, how much is the water $3 per 1,000 gallons.

MR. SALES: That question had better be put to the Financial Secretary.

MR. HU:-How much is

MR. SALES: -It is Government water and I presume that Govern- ment does not pay for consumption of water in its own premises.

MR. HU:-Well, because

CHAIRMAN:-Are you asking a supplementary, Mr. Hu?

MR. SALES: Mr. Chairman, you are so indulgent towards Mr. Hu. Can I expect that the same attention will be given to our own sup- plementary questions when it is our turn to just exceed the Standing Orders by a little bit?

MR. HU:-Mr. Chairman, you are always very lenient to Mr. SALES. MR. KAN: Private car cleaners are permitted to wash their cars in the car parks. Are there any regulations to control that?

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, this question is one of the reasons why I have asked for a review of the procedures and rules in our car parks because in car parks, there appears to be an increasing laxity in that regard and some form of control should be instituted.

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