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MRS. ELLIOTT:-I visited the Kowloon Bay area last year and saw definite signs of erosion. Is there any arrangement with P.W.D. to investigate each of these sites before the rainy season?

COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-I have seen the roads too, on the side. I have instructed my Works Division to try to build some sort of herring bone drains to prevent landslides.

(11) MR. HENRY H. L. HU asked the following question:-

Could the Chairman inform the Council which Department or Departments of the Government have hitherto looked after the hawker problem in the Resettlement Estates? What measures are being taken to tackle this question? Is there any intention to review the present policy in the near future, which policy has been in existence ever since the first resettlement blocks were built?

MR. HILTON CHEONG-LEEN, CHAIRMAN OF THE HAWKER POLICY SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:-

The Urban Council is the responsible authority for hawkers throughout the urban areas and as its executive arm the Urban Services Department is, therefore, responsible for hawkers in Resettlement Estates. The Resettlement Department has always worked in very close co-operation with the Urban Services Department on hawker matters in Resettlement Estates and, indeed, in many instances has provided invaluable assistance. As Members are aware the Urban Services Department is suffering from a severe shortage of staff for the control of hawkers and it has, therefore, been extremely difficult for the Department to undertake its full responsibility in the Resettlement Estates and other areas.

The Council's recently formulated policy on hawking, which has been approved by the Standing Committee of the Whole Council, applies without discrimination to the whole of the urban areas including the Resettlement Estates. I do not see that at present there is any need for a special review of the policy as the Hawker Policy Select Committee keeps it under continuous review and as and when the need for changes arise they will be dealt with.

The main problem is the severe shortage of staff, and it is to be regretted that due to administrative red tape the central government has not yet provided the Urban Services Department with the urgently required staff in order to implement the policy in resettlement estates and elsewhere.

MR. HU: Mr. Chairman, the purpose of my asking this question...

CHAIRMAN: Are you asking a supplementary, Mr. Hu?

MR. HU:-Yes, is that during two days in succession I formed the view that physically it would be impossible for the Urban Services Staff to deal with the hawkers in resettlement estates.

CHAIRMAN:-Mr. Hu, question please.

MR. HU: Yes, would it be better that hawkers in resettlement estates be dealt with by Resettlement estate staff instead of Urban Services staff?

COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-Mr. Chairman, whether it is to be dealt with by the Urban Services Department Resettlement Department or any other department, we still need manpower. We have to find people to do it.

MR. HU: So the position I would like to raise is how.

CHAIRMAN:-Question, I hope, Mr. Hu?

MR. HU:-Yes, I am sorry. The hawkers in the Resettlement Estates-nobody really takes care of them. Would that be the position, Mr. Chairman?

CHAIRMAN:-Not at all.

(The Director of Social Welfare left at this point).

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, Mr. Hu has put forward a germ of a thought which you could take home with you and mull over and have a review with your staff and with the staff of the Resettlement Department. I think what Mr. Hu is really trying to get at is could the Resettlement Department take on additional responsibilities in the control of hawkers in Resettlement estates, but there are practical difficulties and we hope that as soon as we do get the additional staff required there will be greater impetus in the management and control of hawkers in resettlement estates because this is very urgently needed.

CHAIRMAN:-Are you answering a question or asking a supplementary? (Laughter).

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2421 Page 25 of 242 30 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL MRS. ELLIOTT:-I visited the Kowloon Bay area last year and saw definite signs of erosion. Is there any arrangement with P.W.D. to investigate each of these sites before the rainy season? COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-I have seen the roads too, on the side. I have instructed my Works Division to try to build some sort of herring bone drains to prevent landslides. (11) MR. HENRY H. L. HU asked the following question:- Could the Chairman inform the Council which Department or Departments of the Government have hitherto looked after the hawker problem in the Resettlement Estates? What measures are being taken to tackle this question? Is there any intention to review the present policy in the near future, which policy has been in existence ever since the first resettlement blocks were built? MR. HILTON CHEONG-LEEN, CHAIRMAN OF THE HAWKER POLICY SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:- The Urban Council is the responsible authority for hawkers throughout the urban areas and as its executive arm the Urban Services Department is, therefore, responsible for hawkers in Resettlement Estates. The Resettlement Department has always worked in very close co-operation with the Urban Services Department on hawker matters in Resettlement Estates and, indeed, in many instances has provided invaluable assistance. As Members are aware the Urban Services Department is suffering from a severe shortage of staff for the control of hawkers and it has, therefore, been extremely difficult for the Department to undertake its full responsibility in the Resettlement Estates and other areas. The Council's recently formulated policy on hawking, which has been approved by the Standing Committee of the Whole Council, applies without discrimination to the whole of the urban areas including the Resettlement Estates. I do not see that at present there is any need for a special review of the policy as the Hawker Policy Select Committee keeps it under continuous review and as and when the need for changes arise they will be dealt with. The main problem is the severe shortage of staff, and it is to be regretted that due to administrative red tape the central government has not yet provided the Urban Services Department with the urgently required staff in order to implement the policy in resettlement estates and elsewhere. MR. HU: Mr. Chairman, the purpose of my asking this question... CHAIRMAN: Are you asking a supplementary, Mr. Hu? MR. HU:-Yes, is that during two days in succession I formed the view that physically it would be impossible for the Urban Services Staff to deal with the hawkers in resettlement estates. CHAIRMAN:-Mr. Hu, question please. MR. HU: Yes, would it be better that hawkers in resettlement estates be dealt with by Resettlement estate staff instead of Urban Services staff? COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-Mr. Chairman, whether it is to be dealt with by the Urban Services Department Resettlement Department or any other department, we still need manpower. We have to find people to do it. MR. HU: So the position I would like to raise is how. CHAIRMAN:-Question, I hope, Mr. Hu? MR. HU:-Yes, I am sorry. The hawkers in the Resettlement Estates-nobody really takes care of them. Would that be the position, Mr. Chairman? CHAIRMAN:-Not at all. (The Director of Social Welfare left at this point). MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, Mr. Hu has put forward a germ of a thought which you could take home with you and mull over and have a review with your staff and with the staff of the Resettlement Department. I think what Mr. Hu is really trying to get at is could the Resettlement Department take on additional responsibilities in the control of hawkers in Resettlement estates, but there are practical difficulties and we hope that as soon as we do get the additional staff required there will be greater impetus in the management and control of hawkers in resettlement estates because this is very urgently needed. CHAIRMAN:-Are you answering a question or asking a supplementary? (Laughter). Page 25 Page 26
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2421 Page 25 of 242 30 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL MRS. ELLIOTT:-I visited the Kowloon Bay area last year and saw definite signs of erosion. Is there any arrangement with P.W.D. to investigate each of these sites before the rainy season? COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-I have seen the roads too, on the side. I have instructed my Works Division to try to build some sort of herring bone drains to prevent landslides. (11) MR. HENRY H. L. HU asked the following question:- Could the Chairman inform the Council which Department or Departments of the Government have hitherto looked after the hawker problem in the Resettlement Estates? What measures are being taken to tackle this question? Is there any intention to review the present policy in the near future, which policy has been in existence ever since the first resettlement blocks were built? MR. HILTON CHEONG-LEEN, CHAIRMAN OF THE HAWKER POLICY SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:- The Urban Council is the responsible authority for hawkers throughout the urban areas and as its executive arm the Urban Services Department is, therefore, responsible for hawkers in Resettlement Estates. The Resettlement De- partment has always worked in very close co-operation with the Urban Services Department on hawker matters in Resettlement Estates and, indeed, in many instances has provided invaluable assistance. As Members are aware the Urban Services Department is suffering from a severe shortage of staff for the control of hawkers and it has, therefore, been extremely difficult for the Department to undertake its full responsibility in the Resettlement Estates and other areas. The Council's recently formulated policy on hawking, which has been approved by the Standing Committee of the Whole Council, applies without discrimination to the whole of the urban areas including the Resettlement Estates. I do not see that at present there is any need for a special review of the policy as the Hawker Policy Select Committee keeps it under continuous review and as and when the need for changes arise they will be dealt with. The main problem is the severe shortage of staff, and it is to be regretted that due to administrative red tape the central tion HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 31 government has not yet provided the Urban Services Department with the urgently required staff in order to implement the policy in resettlement estates and elsewhere. MR. HU: Mr. Chairman, the purpose of my asking this ques- CHAIRMAN: Are you asking a supplementary, Mr. Hu? MR. HU:-Yes, is that during two days in succession I formed the view that physically it would be impossible for the Urban Services Staff to deal with the hawkers in resettlement estates. CHAIRMAN:-Mr. Hu, question please. MR. HU: Yes, would it be better that hawkers in resettlement estates be dealt with by Resettlement estate staff instead of Urban Services staff? COMMISSIONER for ResettlEMENT:-Mr. Chairman, whether it is to be dealt with by the Urban Services Department Resettlement Department or any other department, we still need manpower. have to find people to do it. MR. HU: So the position I would like to raise is how. CHAIRMAN:-Question, I hope, Mr. Hu? We MR. HU:-Yes, I am sorry. The hawkers in the Resettlement Estates-nobody really takes care of them. Would that be the posi- tion, Mr. Chairman? CHAIRMAN:-Not at all. (The Director of Social Welfare left at this point). MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, Mr. Hu has put forward a germ of a thought which you could take home with you and mull over and have a review with your staff and with the staff of the Resettlement Department. I think what Mr. Hu is really trying to get at is could the Resettlement Department take on additional responsibilities in the control of hawkers in Resettlement estates, but there are practical difficulties and we hope that as soon as we do get the additional staff required there will be greater impetus in the management and control of hawkers in resettlement estates because this is very urgently needed. CHAIRMAN:-Are you answering a question or asking a supple- mentary? (Laughter). Page 25Page 26
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MRS. ELLIOTT:-I visited the Kowloon Bay area last year and saw definite signs of erosion. Is there any arrangement with P.W.D. to investigate each of these sites before the rainy season?

COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-I have seen the roads too, on the side. I have instructed my Works Division to try to build some sort of herring bone drains to prevent landslides.

(11) MR. HENRY H. L. HU asked the following question:-

Could the Chairman inform the Council which Department or Departments of the Government have hitherto looked after the hawker problem in the Resettlement Estates? What measures are being taken to tackle this question? Is there any intention to review the present policy in the near future, which policy has been in existence ever since the first resettlement blocks were built?

MR. HILTON CHEONG-LEEN, CHAIRMAN OF THE HAWKER POLICY SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:-

The Urban Council is the responsible authority for hawkers throughout the urban areas and as its executive arm the Urban Services Department is, therefore, responsible for hawkers in Resettlement Estates. The Resettlement De- partment has always worked in very close co-operation with the Urban Services Department on hawker matters in Resettlement Estates and, indeed, in many instances has provided invaluable assistance. As Members are aware the Urban Services Department is suffering from a severe shortage of staff for the control of hawkers and it has, therefore, been extremely difficult for the Department to undertake its full responsibility in the Resettlement Estates and other areas.

The Council's recently formulated policy on hawking, which has been approved by the Standing Committee of the Whole Council, applies without discrimination to the whole of the urban areas including the Resettlement Estates. I do not see that at present there is any need for a special review of the policy as the Hawker Policy Select Committee keeps it under continuous review and as and when the need for changes arise they will be dealt with.

The main problem is the severe shortage of staff, and it is to be regretted that due to administrative red tape the central

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government has not yet provided the Urban Services Department with the urgently required staff in order to implement the policy in resettlement estates and elsewhere.

MR. HU: Mr. Chairman, the purpose of my asking this ques-

CHAIRMAN: Are you asking a supplementary, Mr. Hu?

MR. HU:-Yes, is that during two days in succession I formed the view that physically it would be impossible for the Urban Services Staff to deal with the hawkers in resettlement estates.

CHAIRMAN:-Mr. Hu, question please.

MR. HU: Yes, would it be better that hawkers in resettlement estates be dealt with by Resettlement estate staff instead of Urban Services staff?

COMMISSIONER for ResettlEMENT:-Mr. Chairman, whether it is to be dealt with by the Urban Services Department Resettlement Department or any other department, we still need manpower. have to find people to do it.

MR. HU: So the position I would like to raise is how.

CHAIRMAN:-Question, I hope, Mr. Hu?

We

MR. HU:-Yes, I am sorry. The hawkers in the Resettlement Estates-nobody really takes care of them. Would that be the posi- tion, Mr. Chairman?

CHAIRMAN:-Not at all.

(The Director of Social Welfare left at this point).

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, Mr. Hu has put forward a germ of a thought which you could take home with you and mull over and have a review with your staff and with the staff of the Resettlement Department. I think what Mr. Hu is really trying to get at is could the Resettlement Department take on additional responsibilities in the control of hawkers in Resettlement estates, but there are practical difficulties and we hope that as soon as we do get the additional staff required there will be greater impetus in the management and control of hawkers in resettlement estates because this is very urgently needed.

CHAIRMAN:-Are you answering a question or asking a supple- mentary? (Laughter).

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