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MR. HU: Yes.

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CHAIRMAN: --I'm sure that this is a subject in which the departments that are primarily concerned with vocational training are very interested. Indeed, and I'm sure that there are plans to co-ordinate such training.

MR. HU: Such kind of co-ordination of course I have known in my mind some kind of co-ordination probably will be needed. This is my supplementary, only supplementary with question No. 1.

MRS. ELLIOTT: -Mr. Chairman, may I take the opportunity of thanking Mr. Hu for his great interest in the Wong Tai Sin Ward.

MR. HU: -I may answer this because we did visit the Wong Tai Sin Estate and the Kaifong Association did give us a written paper, because it is in Chinese I can read, then I put forward four questions they want to ask.

DR. BELL: —Mr. Chairman, could I ask you a question? Ought we not to have a motion suspending Standing Orders before you permit Mr. Hu to ask these questions?

CHAIRMAN: -You are possibly correct Dr. Bell.

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, Mr. Hu is perfectly in order because we are still under question time and it is only--he has explained his circumstances-and it is only for the Chairman to decide whether he should be given the floor or not. If the Chairman decides that he should not be given the floor there's nothing more to be said, but if the Chairman decides that our great friend, Mr. Hu, should be given his say in the interests of democracy, by all means let us hear Mr. Hu.

DR. BELL: -Under which Standing Order is that Mr. Chairman?

CHAIRMAN: —It is still part of question time, we have-

DR. BELL: -We can ask questions in retrospect?

CHAIRMAN: -No, only Mr. Hu (laughter).

MR. HU: Mr. Chairman, the next supplementary question I would ask is with regard to question No. 4. I should thank very much my great friend Mr. SALES (laughter)—what I would like to ask is that Mr. SALES did not mention about further efforts beyond 1967 and I would say that certainly in the crowded estates such as Tung Tau, Wong Tai Sin, there are many slopes which are now barren and it needs to be planted as soon as possible during spring time. Will there be efforts directed to that?

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MR. SALES: -Mr. Hu can have my assurance that our Select Committee will certainly do what he wishes us to do in this matter.

MR. HU: -Thank you. The last supplementary question is with regard to No. 5. Mr. Chairman, I had in my mind question No. 5 not only the play-ground which Mr. SALES has very eloquently already given us the answer. What I really mean is whether the public reading room and advisory bureau or centre could be considered in the Stanley area because that area is away from the centre of the urban area. It probably needs such kind of public reading room and also advisory centre for young people and also for those working people who are seeking jobs because Stanley is far from the centre of the town.

MR. SALES: -I would like to refer that question to the Library Select Committee. Mrs. ELLIOTT might wish to answer it.

MR. HU: Mr. Chairman, would you answer my question could it be considered to build a public reading room and advisory centre?

CHAIRMAN: --I don't know what you mean by advisory centre Mr. Hu.

MR. HU: -Advisory centre is--in Stanley there are a lot of young people and working people, they are trying to seek for employment.—

CHAIRMAN: -This is not our concern, but we shall look into it. We can refer this question perhaps to the department more vitally concerned with employment. The question of reading room I can also arrange to be studied.

MR. HU: That's all, Mr. Chairman (laughter).

STATEMENT BY THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CITY HALL SELECT COMMITTEE.

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, the City Hall is now six years old. It has become firmly established as the cultural centre of Hong Kong. It has enjoyed phenomenal success right from its opening. Its use by the public, both in terms of the number and variety of functions is probably unsurpassed by any other centre of similar size elsewhere in the world. The average number of functions over 6 years is 40 per month in the Concert Hall and 47.5 in the Theatre, 68% of which, Attendance let it be noted, were by non-profit-making societies. figures for the Concert Hall, the Theatre and the Exhibition Halls add up to 12 million.

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Page 28 of 243 38 MR. HU: Yes. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL CHAIRMAN: --I'm sure that this is a subject in which the departments that are primarily concerned with vocational training are very interested. Indeed, and I'm sure that there are plans to co-ordinate such training. MR. HU: Such kind of co-ordination of course I have known in my mind some kind of co-ordination probably will be needed. This is my supplementary, only supplementary with question No. 1. MRS. ELLIOTT: -Mr. Chairman, may I take the opportunity of thanking Mr. Hu for his great interest in the Wong Tai Sin Ward. MR. HU: -I may answer this because we did visit the Wong Tai Sin Estate and the Kaifong Association did give us a written paper, because it is in Chinese I can read, then I put forward four questions they want to ask. DR. BELL: —Mr. Chairman, could I ask you a question? Ought we not to have a motion suspending Standing Orders before you permit Mr. Hu to ask these questions? CHAIRMAN: -You are possibly correct Dr. Bell. MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, Mr. Hu is perfectly in order because we are still under question time and it is only--he has explained his circumstances-and it is only for the Chairman to decide whether he should be given the floor or not. If the Chairman decides that he should not be given the floor there's nothing more to be said, but if the Chairman decides that our great friend, Mr. Hu, should be given his say in the interests of democracy, by all means let us hear Mr. Hu. DR. BELL: -Under which Standing Order is that Mr. Chairman? CHAIRMAN: —It is still part of question time, we have- DR. BELL: -We can ask questions in retrospect? CHAIRMAN: -No, only Mr. Hu (laughter). MR. HU: Mr. Chairman, the next supplementary question I would ask is with regard to question No. 4. I should thank very much my great friend Mr. SALES (laughter)—what I would like to ask is that Mr. SALES did not mention about further efforts beyond 1967 and I would say that certainly in the crowded estates such as Tung Tau, Wong Tai Sin, there are many slopes which are now barren and it needs to be planted as soon as possible during spring time. Will there be efforts directed to that? HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 39 MR. SALES: -Mr. Hu can have my assurance that our Select Committee will certainly do what he wishes us to do in this matter. MR. HU: -Thank you. The last supplementary question is with regard to No. 5. Mr. Chairman, I had in my mind question No. 5 not only the play-ground which Mr. SALES has very eloquently already given us the answer. What I really mean is whether the public reading room and advisory bureau or centre could be considered in the Stanley area because that area is away from the centre of the urban area. It probably needs such kind of public reading room and also advisory centre for young people and also for those working people who are seeking jobs because Stanley is far from the centre of the town. MR. SALES: -I would like to refer that question to the Library Select Committee. Mrs. ELLIOTT might wish to answer it. MR. HU: Mr. Chairman, would you answer my question could it be considered to build a public reading room and advisory centre? CHAIRMAN: --I don't know what you mean by advisory centre Mr. Hu. MR. HU: -Advisory centre is--in Stanley there are a lot of young people and working people, they are trying to seek for employment.— CHAIRMAN: -This is not our concern, but we shall look into it. We can refer this question perhaps to the department more vitally concerned with employment. The question of reading room I can also arrange to be studied. MR. HU: That's all, Mr. Chairman (laughter). STATEMENT BY THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CITY HALL SELECT COMMITTEE. MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, the City Hall is now six years old. It has become firmly established as the cultural centre of Hong Kong. It has enjoyed phenomenal success right from its opening. Its use by the public, both in terms of the number and variety of functions is probably unsurpassed by any other centre of similar size elsewhere in the world. The average number of functions over 6 years is 40 per month in the Concert Hall and 47.5 in the Theatre, 68% of which, Attendance let it be noted, were by non-profit-making societies. figures for the Concert Hall, the Theatre and the Exhibition Halls add up to 12 million. Page 28 of 243 38 ... 39
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MR. HU: Yes.

HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

CHAIRMAN: --I'm sure that this is a subject in which the depart- ments that are primarily concerned with vocational training are very interested. Indeed, and I'm sure that there are plans to co-ordinate such training.

MR. HU: Such kind of co-ordination of course I have known in my mind some kind of co-ordination probably will be needed. This is my supplementary, only supplementary with question No. 1.

MRS. ELLIOTT:-Mr. Chairman, may I take the opportunity of thanking Mr. Hu for his great interest in the Wong Tai Sin Ward.

MR. HU:-I may answer this because we did visit the Wong Tai Sin Estate and the Kaifong Association did give us a written paper, because it is in Chinese I can read, then I put forward four questions they want to ask.

DR. BELL:—Mr. Chairman, could I ask you a question? Ought we not to have a motion suspending Standing Orders before you permit Mr. Hu to ask these questions?

CHAIRMAN: -You are possibly correct Dr. Bell.

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, Mr. Hu is perfectly in order because we are still under question time and it is only--he has explained his circumstances-and it is only for the Chairman to decide whether he should be given the floor or not. If the Chairman decides that he should not be given the floor there's nothing more to be said, but if the Chairman decides that our great friend, Mr. Hu, should be given his say in the interests of democracy, by all means let us hear Mr. Hu.

DR. BELL:-Under which Standing Order is that Mr. Chairman?

CHAIRMAN: —It is still part of question time, we have-

DR. BELL: -We can ask questions in retrospect?

CHAIRMAN: -No, only Mr. Hu (laughter).

MR. HU: Mr. Chairman, the next supplementary question I would ask is with regard to question No. 4. I should thank very much my great friend Mr. SALES (laughter)—what I would like to ask is that Mr. SALES did not mention about further efforts beyond 1967 and I would say that certainly in the crowded estates such as Tung Tau, Wong Tai Sin, there are many slopes which are now barren and it needs to be planted as soon as possible during spring time. Will there be efforts directed to that?

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MR. SALES: -Mr. Hu can have my assurance that our Select Committee will certainly do what he wishes us to do in this matter.

MR. HU:-Thank you. The last supplementary question is with regard to No. 5. Mr. Chairman, I had in my mind question No. 5 not only the play-ground which Mr. SALES has very eloquently already given us the answer. What I really mean is whether the public reading room and advisory bureau or centre could be considered in the Stanley area because that area is away from the centre of the urban area. It probably needs such kind of public reading room and also advisory centre for young people and also for those working people who are seeking jobs because Stanley is far from the centre of the

town.

MR. SALES-I would like to refer that question to the Library Select Committee. Mrs. ELLIOTT might wish to answer it.

MR. HU: Mr. Chairman, would you answer my question could it be considered to build a public reading room and advisory centre?

CHAIRMAN: --I don't know what you mean by advisory centre Mr. Hu.

MR. HU:-Advisory centre is--in Stanley there are a lot of young people and working people, they are trying to seek for employment.—

CHAIRMAN:-This is not our concern, but we shall look into it. We can refer this question perhaps to the department more vitally concerned with employment. The question of reading room I can

also arrange to be studied.

MR. HU: That's all, Mr. Chairman (laughter).

STATEMENT BY THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CITY HALL SELECT COMMITTEE.

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, the City Hall is now six years old. It has become firmly established as the cultural centre of Hong Kong. It has enjoyed phenomenal success right from its opening. Its use by the public, both in terms of the number and variety of functions is probably unsurpassed by any other centre of similar size elsewhere in the world. The average number of functions over 6 years is 40 per month in the Concert Hall and 47.5 in the Theatre, 68% of which, Attendance let it be noted, were by non-profit-making societies. figures for the Concert Hall, the Theatre and the Exhibition Halls add up to 12 million.

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