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providing a secondary place for every child who wants it in Hong Kong. Even in the United States and in the United Kingdom, the percentage of secondary school places for primary leavers is only between 30 and 50%. In other words, out of every two or three primary school leavers, there is only one place for them. So, in Hong Kong, there is no question of providing a secondary place for every child who wants it.

THE COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:- Mr. Chairman, perhaps I could add to that. Secondary education is not provided for resettlement children as such. It is planned on a Colony-wide basis.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:- Mr. Chairman, may I clarify one point? I think that in England education is compulsory up to the age of fifteen, and in the United States there is virtually universal secondary education for every young person who wants it, practically up to the age of eighteen. Now, in Hong Kong, many of us have been urging that in view of our economic development, we do need education for every child who wants it up to the age of sixteen, and, in my question, I did ask whether or not Government envisages that there would be secondary places for every child who wants it. I think this is a very important question which ought to be referred to the Education Department for clarification.

We know from the reply given by Mr. LI Yiu-bor that Government is thinking, and is still thinking, of providing aided secondary education for 15% to 20% of the number of primary school leavers, but as we are responsible, Mr. Chairman, for the general welfare of the young people in our resettlement estates, I believe it is the view of the majority, or even all Members of this Council, to see that secondary education is provided in our resettlement estates for every child who wants it, and this could be made possible by the Urban Council itself later on when it plans and builds its own secondary schools.

MR. SALES:- Mr. Chairman, may I, through you, congratulate Mr. CHEONG-LEEN on having made a speech at question time.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:- Mr. Chairman, we now know that Mr. SALES is back (laughter) having heard his voice in this Council. I would like to clarify by saying that the statement I just made was only in elucidation of the point raised by Mr. Li Yiu-bor.

MR. SALES:- Mr. Chairman, was Mr. CHEONG-LEEN authorized by Mr. Li Yiu-bor, or perhaps by you as Chairman of the Urban Council, to elaborate on his reply?

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MR. CHEONG-LEEN:- Mr. Chairman, I did not say "elaboration", I said "elucidation".

(2) MR. H. CHEONG-LEEN asked the following question:

I understand that during the past five years the Urban Services Department conducted three Anti-Spitting Campaigns and that the next campaign is not due for another couple of years. Would it be possible for the Urban Council to organize, within the next twelve months, another Anti-Spitting Campaign in which the co-operation of the Kaifong Associations and the City District Offices will be sought?

DR. P. F. Woo, CHAIRMAN OF THE HEALTH EDUCATION SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:

This question concerns a proposal to seek the assistance of Kaifong Associations and City District Offices in mounting an anti-spitting campaign during the next twelve months.

The promotion of health education by all available means is one of the aims of this Council, and the assistance of Kaifongs and City District Officers would be welcomed in our continuing efforts to eradicate the habit of spitting in public places.

As you are aware, a full-scale anti-spitting campaign was mounted by this Council and the Urban Services Department from mid-April to mid-May this year. Ten thousand posters in modern cartoon style were distributed and there was wide coverage in and good co-operation from the press, radio, television and cinemas, as well as departmental publicity by broadcasting vans throughout the urban area. During this period, 989 offenders were detected by health inspectors and warned that they were committing an offence.

The Health Education Select Committee takes the view that the successful elimination of this disgusting habit can best be achieved through the education of successive generations, and not by exhortation or punishment of the older generations in whom the habit is ingrained. By continuing to ensure that school children of all ages are taught and constantly reminded in their hygiene and civics lessons that spitting is dangerous and anti-social, we are confident that the rising generation will not spit, will not allow their children to spit, and may even gradually influence the older generation towards this attitude.

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Page 129 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL providing a secondary place for every child who wants it in Hong Kong. Even in the United States and in the United Kingdom, the percentage of secondary school places for primary leavers is only between 30 and 50%. In other words, out of every two or three primary school leavers, there is only one place for them. So, in Hong Kong, there is no question of providing a secondary place for every child who wants it. THE COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:- Mr. Chairman, perhaps I could add to that. Secondary education is not provided for resettlement children as such. It is planned on a Colony-wide basis. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:- Mr. Chairman, may I clarify one point? I think that in England education is compulsory up to the age of fifteen, and in the United States there is virtually universal secondary education for every young person who wants it, practically up to the age of eighteen. Now, in Hong Kong, many of us have been urging that in view of our economic development, we do need education for every child who wants it up to the age of sixteen, and, in my question, I did ask whether or not Government envisages that there would be secondary places for every child who wants it. I think this is a very important question which ought to be referred to the Education Department for clarification. We know from the reply given by Mr. LI Yiu-bor that Government is thinking, and is still thinking, of providing aided secondary education for 15% to 20% of the number of primary school leavers, but as we are responsible, Mr. Chairman, for the general welfare of the young people in our resettlement estates, I believe it is the view of the majority, or even all Members of this Council, to see that secondary education is provided in our resettlement estates for every child who wants it, and this could be made possible by the Urban Council itself later on when it plans and builds its own secondary schools. MR. SALES:- Mr. Chairman, may I, through you, congratulate Mr. CHEONG-LEEN on having made a speech at question time. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:- Mr. Chairman, we now know that Mr. SALES is back (laughter) having heard his voice in this Council. I would like to clarify by saying that the statement I just made was only in elucidation of the point raised by Mr. Li Yiu-bor. MR. SALES:- Mr. Chairman, was Mr. CHEONG-LEEN authorized by Mr. Li Yiu-bor, or perhaps by you as Chairman of the Urban Council, to elaborate on his reply? HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL MR. CHEONG-LEEN:- Mr. Chairman, I did not say "elaboration", I said "elucidation". (2) MR. H. CHEONG-LEEN asked the following question: I understand that during the past five years the Urban Services Department conducted three Anti-Spitting Campaigns and that the next campaign is not due for another couple of years. Would it be possible for the Urban Council to organize, within the next twelve months, another Anti-Spitting Campaign in which the co-operation of the Kaifong Associations and the City District Offices will be sought? DR. P. F. Woo, CHAIRMAN OF THE HEALTH EDUCATION SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows: This question concerns a proposal to seek the assistance of Kaifong Associations and City District Offices in mounting an anti-spitting campaign during the next twelve months. The promotion of health education by all available means is one of the aims of this Council, and the assistance of Kaifongs and City District Officers would be welcomed in our continuing efforts to eradicate the habit of spitting in public places. As you are aware, a full-scale anti-spitting campaign was mounted by this Council and the Urban Services Department from mid-April to mid-May this year. Ten thousand posters in modern cartoon style were distributed and there was wide coverage in and good co-operation from the press, radio, television and cinemas, as well as departmental publicity by broadcasting vans throughout the urban area. During this period, 989 offenders were detected by health inspectors and warned that they were committing an offence. The Health Education Select Committee takes the view that the successful elimination of this disgusting habit can best be achieved through the education of successive generations, and not by exhortation or punishment of the older generations in whom the habit is ingrained. By continuing to ensure that school children of all ages are taught and constantly reminded in their hygiene and civics lessons that spitting is dangerous and anti-social, we are confident that the rising generation will not spit, will not allow their children to spit, and may even gradually influence the older generation towards this attitude. Page 130 of 243 243 234

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Page 129 of 24 243 234 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL providing a secondary place for every child who wants it in Hong Kong. Even in the United States and in the United Kingdom, the percentage of secondary school places for primary leavers is only between 30 and 50%. In other words, out of every two or three primary school leavers, there is only one place for them. So, in Hong Kong, there is no ques- tion of providing a secondary place for every child who wants it. THE COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-Mr. Chairman, perhaps I could add to that. Secondary education is not provided for resettle- ment children as such. It is planned on a Colony wide basis. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, may I clarify one point? I think that in England education is compulsory up to the age of fifteen, and in the United States there is virtually universal secondary education for every young person who wants it, practically up to the age of eighteen. Now, in Hong Kong, many of us have been urging that in view of our economic development, we do need education for every child who wants it up to the age of sixteen, and, in my question, I did ask whether or not Government envisages that there would be secondary places for every child who wants it. I think this is a very important question which ought to be referred to the Education Department for clarification. We know from the reply given by Mr. LI Yiu-bor that Government is thinking, and is still thinking, of providing aided secondary educa- tion for 15% to 20% of the number of primary school leavers, but as we are responsible, Mr. Chairman, for the general welfare of the young people in our resettlement estates, I believe it is the view of the majority, or even all Members of this Council, to see that secondary education is provided in our resettlement estates for every child who wants it, and this could be made possible by the Urban Council itself later on when it plans and builds its own secondary schools. MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, may I, through you, congratulate Mr. I think that CHEONG-LEEN on having made a speech at question time. as Chairman of the Standing Orders Select Committee, he should set a better example for other Members of the Urban Council to follow. (Laughter). MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, we now know that Mr. SALES is back (laughter) having heard his voice in this Council. I would like to clarify by saying that the statement I just made was only in elucida- tion of the point raised by Mr. Li Yiu-bor. MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, was Mr. CHEONG-LEEN authorized by Mr. Li Yiu-bor, or perhaps by you as Chairman of the Urban Council, to elaborate on his reply? HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 235 MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, I did not say "elaboration", I said "elucidation". (2) MR. H. CHEONG-LEEN asked the following question : I understand that during the past five years the Urban Services Department conducted three Anti-Spitting Campaigns and that the next campaign is not due for another couple of years. Would it be possible for the Urban Council to organize, within the next twelve months, another Anti- Spitting Campaign in which the co-operation of the Kai- fong Associations and the City District Offices will be sought? DR. P. F. Woo, CHAIRMAN OF THE HEALTH EDUCATION SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows: This question concerns a proposal to seek the assistance of Kaifong Associations and City District Offices in mounting an anti-spitting campaign during the next twelve months. The promotion of health education by all available means is one of the aims of this Council, and the assistance of Kaifongs and City District Officers would be welcomed in our continuing efforts to eradicate the habit of spitting in public places. As you are aware, a full scale anti-spitting campaign was mounted by this Council and the Urban Services Depart- ment from mid-April to mid-May this year. Ten thou- sand posters in modern cartoon style were distributed and there was wide coverage in and good co-operation from the press, radio, television and cinemas, as well as depart- mental publicity by broadcasting vans throughout the urban area. During this period, 989 offenders were detected by health inspectors and warned that they were committting an offence. The Health Education Select Committee takes the view that the successful elimination of this disgusting habit can best be achieved through the education of successive genera- tions, and not by exhortation or punishment of the older generations in whom the habit is ingrained. By continu- ing to ensure that school children of all ages are taught and constantly reminded in their hygiene and civics lessons that spitting is dangerous and anti-social, we are con- fident that the rising generation will not spit, will not allow their children to spit, and may even gradually in- fluence the older generation towards this attitude. Page 129 of 243

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providing a secondary place for every child who wants it in Hong Kong. Even in the United States and in the United Kingdom, the percentage of secondary school places for primary leavers is only between 30 and 50%. In other words, out of every two or three primary school leavers, there is only one place for them. So, in Hong Kong, there is no ques- tion of providing a secondary place for every child who wants it.

THE COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-Mr. Chairman, perhaps I could add to that. Secondary education is not provided for resettle- ment children as such. It is planned on a Colony wide basis.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, may I clarify one point? I think that in England education is compulsory up to the age of fifteen, and in the United States there is virtually universal secondary education for every young person who wants it, practically up to the age of eighteen. Now, in Hong Kong, many of us have been urging that in view of our economic development, we do need education for every child who wants it up to the age of sixteen, and, in my question, I did ask whether or not Government envisages that there would be secondary places for every child who wants it. I think this is a very important question which ought to be referred to the Education Department for clarification.

We know from the reply given by Mr. LI Yiu-bor that Government is thinking, and is still thinking, of providing aided secondary educa- tion for 15% to 20% of the number of primary school leavers, but as we are responsible, Mr. Chairman, for the general welfare of the young people in our resettlement estates, I believe it is the view of the majority, or even all Members of this Council, to see that secondary education is provided in our resettlement estates for every child who wants it, and this could be made possible by the Urban Council itself later on when it plans and builds its own secondary schools.

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, may I, through you, congratulate Mr. I think that CHEONG-LEEN on having made a speech at question time.

as Chairman of the Standing Orders Select Committee, he should set a better example for other Members of the Urban Council to follow. (Laughter).

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, we now know that Mr. SALES is back (laughter) having heard his voice in this Council. I would like to clarify by saying that the statement I just made was only in elucida- tion of the point raised by Mr. Li Yiu-bor.

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, was Mr. CHEONG-LEEN authorized by Mr. Li Yiu-bor, or perhaps by you as Chairman of the Urban Council, to elaborate on his reply?

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MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, I did not say "elaboration", I said "elucidation".

(2) MR. H. CHEONG-LEEN asked the following question :

I understand that during the past five years the Urban Services Department conducted three Anti-Spitting Campaigns and that the next campaign is not due for another couple of years. Would it be possible for the Urban Council to organize, within the next twelve months, another Anti- Spitting Campaign in which the co-operation of the Kai- fong Associations and the City District Offices will be sought?

DR. P. F. Woo, CHAIRMAN OF THE HEALTH EDUCATION SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:

This question concerns a proposal to seek the assistance of Kaifong Associations and City District Offices in mounting an anti-spitting campaign during the next twelve months.

As you are aware, a full scale anti-spitting campaign was mounted by this Council and the Urban Services Depart- ment from mid-April to mid-May this year. Ten thou- sand posters in modern cartoon style were distributed and there was wide coverage in and good co-operation from the press, radio, television and cinemas, as well as depart- mental publicity by broadcasting vans throughout the urban area. During this period, 989 offenders were detected by health inspectors and warned that they were committting an offence.

The Health Education Select Committee takes the view that the successful elimination of this disgusting habit can best be achieved through the education of successive genera- tions, and not by exhortation or punishment of the older generations in whom the habit is ingrained. By continu- ing to ensure that school children of all ages are taught and constantly reminded in their hygiene and civics lessons that spitting is dangerous and anti-social, we are con- fident that the rising generation will not spit, will not allow their children to spit, and may even gradually in- fluence the older generation towards this attitude.

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